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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #450 on: February 14, 2017, 05:13:05 PM »
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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #451 on: February 16, 2017, 12:35:47 AM »
  Even Harry Potter figured out after 7 books/8 movies it was time to give whiny teen angst a rest :). Maybe have a movie about an ADULT.

  The Bond movies weren't made worse by curbing the rampant misogyny by making Bond's boss a woman who was frankly scarier than he was.

  We'll have Jedi-ness up the wazoo by the end of the year. I think it's ok if the some of the Star Wars movies grow up a little.

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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #452 on: February 17, 2017, 06:10:23 PM »
Eh, some folks like peanut butter and chocolate and because of that Reese's makes a mint every year.  But substitute in almond butter and carob for the "adults" and I doubt they sell nearly as many.  There's nothing wrong with some junk food or "junk" movies.

While I am well aware that real life (tm) is full of gray and grey morality, I personally felt that Rogue One lost out by omitting the black and white morality of the original trilogy.  By drowning us in the moral morass of anti-hero-ness (is that even a word?), I didn't feel as much of a connection to the cast.  Not to mention that the direction seemed to be, "Be interesting but don't let the audience love you.  We don't want them to feel sad when you all die."  I mean, really?  Make me HATE the empire.  Make me want to tear it down with my bare hands.  Make me understand WHY the morally gray, depressing reality needs to be in my fantasy film AT ALL.  Do, that, and I can forgive a lot.

And let's not get me started on the plot holes (Hey, Hollywood, rewriting a film WHILE filming it is a bad idea.) or the lack of motivation in spots. 

Nonetheless, it wasn't all horrible.  The Corvette scene was AWESOME.  As were the small scale fighter battles.

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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #453 on: February 21, 2017, 07:16:07 PM »
The LEGO NINJAGO Movie

Whelp, this is a thing now.  We're probably going to get a different LEGO movie every year now, until people get SICK AND TIRED of them.

... I hope they do Alien Conquest.  It's, like, the one set I'm still kicking myself over missing.  Though considering that it only lasted one year, I somehow doubt it. :(

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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #455 on: March 07, 2017, 06:31:30 PM »
So, finally got around to seeing the new Ghostbusters.  Good movie in basically every way.  I wanted to whine about filmed in Boston but taking place in NYC, but they made that work.  (Seriously.  Set one in Boston, that place is lousy with ghosts.)  All the haters were completely wrong.
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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #456 on: March 07, 2017, 06:41:00 PM »
@MilitiaJim

I tried to watch it for about 30 minutes before I gave up.  I ... did not enjoy it.  I'm glad you did.  And, that's all I'm going to say.

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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #457 on: March 07, 2017, 06:58:49 PM »
Dude, I rather want to know more.  I thought they did a darn good job.  Being better than Ghostbusters 2 isn't the highest bar to step over, and topping Ghostbusters 1 is nigh impossible, but I thought this production was solid or better from stem to stern.
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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #458 on: March 07, 2017, 11:28:07 PM »
I wanted to whine about filmed in Boston but taking place in NYC, but they made that work.

TV has been selling other cities as NYC for so long, I don't even notice any more. Hell, even The Avengers was filmed in Pennsylvania. The only NYC-shot show I can think of is Gotham.

All that aside, I'm with you 100% on Ghostbusters. The movie was fun, the cast were funny, the plot was serviceable, and the effects were decent. Was it what The Academy would consider one of the best movies of the year? No, but it wasn't meant to be. I saw it in a packed theatre where people laughed, cheered, and gasped in unison. That's the sort of movie-going experience I like to have.

I look forward to watching this with my niece once she's a little older.
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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #459 on: March 08, 2017, 11:27:01 PM »
Dude, I rather want to know more.  I thought they did a darn good job.  Being better than Ghostbusters 2 isn't the highest bar to step over, and topping Ghostbusters 1 is nigh impossible, but I thought this production was solid or better from stem to stern.

Very well.  I was flying to ... somewhere on business, and watching it on a tiny screen, so that may weigh into this.  A co-worker in my office really enjoyed it but she's too young to have seen the original.  (And she hadn't; she wanted to watch the original after watching the remake.)  She encouraged me to give it a chance but I resisted.  Mostly because I'm tired of Hollywood animating the dead corpses of previously successful franchises and making them shake and shamble while holding a "Please donate.  Anything will help." sign.

However, I figured that killing time watching it on the plane was reasonable.  I watched until all the characters were introduced and could figure (based on the plot of the original and the trailers) more or less where it was going.  Not in the specifics mind you, just the generalities.  I was not impressed with the characters, nor did I laugh even once in that 30 minutes.  I didn't even grin.  And, I'm normally the guy who gets stared at for laughing during a movie on a plane.  I seriously remember asking myself not once or twice but multiple times, "Was that a joke?  If so, was it supposed to be funny?"  (Case in point, the crack about the circus figuring out how to kill elephants - or something like that.)

I realized that I was getting no enjoyment out of it whatsoever and turned it off.  Then, I watched something forgettable in the action genre and was much happier with my choice despite now having no idea what I it was I watched.

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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #460 on: March 11, 2017, 08:56:53 PM »
So, finally got around to seeing the new Ghostbusters.  Good movie in basically every way.  I wanted to whine about filmed in Boston but taking place in NYC, but they made that work.  (Seriously.  Set one in Boston, that place is lousy with ghosts.)  All the haters were completely wrong.

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Re: Movie Reviews, Reactions, and Rumors 2016.
« Reply #461 on: April 27, 2017, 06:45:47 AM »
OK, Rogue One, pretty good overall, but I have some nitpicks with it:
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  • No opening crawl! Way to make a bad first-impression, movie.
  • Too many call-forwards and nods to the other movies. Dr. Ezvan and Ponda Baba were on Jadha before heading to Tatooine? Really?
  • Vader making choking puns. I groaned out loud when that happened. Honestly, I'd have preferred it if the first time you see Vader at all in the movie was when he lit up his lightsaber.
  • Tarkin. Did we need CGI-Cushing? I'm sure there are actors out there that could wear enough makeup to look Tarkin-esque. Or just, you know, not show him.
  • Did we have to go through the trouble of giving the whole cast heroic last-stands just to nuke the whole place from orbit just to be sure?
  • I still don't know most of the character's names.
  • Apparently, even in a galaxy far, far away most engineers are old white guys.
  • Other than Jyn, her mother (who died after 2 minutes), and Mon Mothma (who got about as many lines as she did in Jedi), there weren't any women at all in the movie. Way to increase representation, guys. You couldn't have made a few of the redshirts in the final battle women? Pilots from Blue Squadron? Troopers getting cut down by Vader?


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1. The lack of spoiler was a directive from on high to distinguish anthology films from the episodes. Ill bet anything that Young Han Solo will pan upwards too instead of down as in the episodes
2. Yeah, the duo's appearance on Jedha was excessive. Their cameo should have come at the beginning on the trading station where we're introduced to Cassian where it would have felt more natural and less "How convenient they got out of there just before the place went boom". But come on, how was seeing Red Five getting splashed in preparation for Luke taking the call sign not funny?
3. This is the same guy who told the corpse of someone he just murdered that their apology had been accepted, or jokes about being more forgiving than the Emperor. Completely in character. But yes, having his initial appearance being the boarding action would have been better from a dramatic stand point, especially as the scene on Mustafar only seemed to be included because it looked cool.
4. CGI Tarkin was awesome, and ultimately entirely necessary to believably replace Krennic as DS commander. Though yes I suppose they could have been more creative in his deployment to minimise direct exposure of his CGIness.
5. Yes. Yes we did. And the pilot got chumped, as arguably did the monk.
6. Watch it a couple more times
7 & 8. Yeah, the extras casting was painfully unimaginative -- surely the Rogue One volunteers could have had some women in it, and its canon that there are sufficient women in Imperial service that their presence isn't exactly exotic so having some of those anonymously armoured goons speaking with female voices would have been good. And there was utterly no need for it to have been Jyn's mother who died in a pointless act of defiance at the beginning of the film: women can be genius weapon designers too

My one major complaint is the stupidity of Leia & the Tantive IV being at the final battle when (a) she's previously been mentioned in the movie as having been sent to Tattooine to collect Obi Wan, and (b) Vader quite explicitly says when she's brought before him in Ep 4 that the plans were transmitted to her ship not taken from the battle by it.

We finally saw Rogue One a few weeks ago.  I keep wanting to like it and just don't.  Someone, Pat?, described it as a "war movie" in the Star Wars 'verse, and that is true.  It just wasn't even a good one.  The effects were all good, and the acting was solid.  Characters were a mixed bag.  Plot was terrible.  I have no idea who anyone who isn't an Imperial or a Rebel is.  There are hints that there is more, but no explanation I picked up.

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I get that they had to kill everyone off, and that is a thing that happens in war.  But wiping out the whole "Library of the Imperium" is just so mind mindbogglingly STUPID.  Does the main research repository get destroyed every few hundred years?  That would explain some of the technological stagnation from the Old Republic.

Throw in casually murdering a battalion of Storm Troopers and a TIE wing, WTF Tarkin?

I was also badly disappointed in that neither the Storm Troopers nor the "elite Rebel commandos" got some "normal" opposition against which one could plausibly claim they are elite.  Harumph.


So many neat, good, or nice components mixed into a foul brew.  :(
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