Author Topic: Life, the World, and Everything in 2016 (general world news & social issues)  (Read 13785 times)

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Basic income is a good idea on paper and might become viable as more and more is automated, but I don't see it working with EU-style "let's see how many third-worlders we can cram into our countries".

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Well, they definitively have been running an austerity program since 2010. Maybe, just maybe, austerity isn't a magical economic cure-all after all?
It looks like they didn't cut overall spending and designed their cuts for the least "bang for the buck" while also not unscrewing the tax code.  That is sort of a textbook "how to do it wrong."   :(
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Krensky, I never inferred anything racially related with what I said.

So let's hear your plan to fix the welfare state and get people out of poverty.


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Krensky, I never inferred anything racially related with what I said.

So let's hear your plan to fix the welfare state and get people out of poverty.

And the actual TANF caps and prerequisites? Are they unfair?

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Krensky, I never inferred anything racially related with what I said.

So let's hear your plan to fix the welfare state and get people out of poverty.

And the actual TANF caps and prerequisites? Are they unfair?

I don't think they are unreasonable but they are also only part of the solution.


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Basic income is a good idea on paper and might become viable as more and more is automated, but I don't see it working with EU-style "let's see how many third-worlders we can cram into our countries".
I like it as a means to simplify our help systems, unscrew a whole mess of perverse incentives, fire a whole mess of bureaucrats.

Is it xenophobic to think that most social services should be restricted to citizens?  (Holy moley is the US immigration process -ed up.)
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It's not xenophobic, it's nationalist and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. After all, nothing is stopping people of other nations from doing the same.

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It's not xenophobic, it's nationalist and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. After all, nothing is stopping people of other nations from doing the same.

I'm in absolute agreement.


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Krensky, I never inferred anything racially related with what I said.

So let's hear your plan to fix the welfare state and get people out of poverty.

And the actual TANF caps and prerequisites? Are they unfair?

I don't think they are unreasonable but they are also only part of the solution.

Despite all evidence that they increase poverty and worsen outcomes...

That's the sort of cruel heartlessness I expect from your typical American "libertarian"
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