[Fallout] Berlin in Fallout?

[TheAuldGrump]

Just a faint glimmer at this time - more because of an upcoming line of inexpensive plastic miniature than anything else -


Looks like a good fit for Fallout, and might work for a New Reich rising from the bombed ruins of Berlin.

While a good fit for Fallout that does not look like improvised armor to me - likely an improved Metal Armor, with attached respirator.

Berlin would likely be hit hard, and would likely not be in the best of opinions for either the U.S. or China....

It would give me an excuse to have a city based campaign for Fallout, though a planning session for PA Berlin seems like a good idea.

The Auld Grump

[Sletchman]

That's a sweet looking mini.  If you're looking at a New Reich emerging, they need to have some kind of operations center (think Enclave - they get their sweet toys from somewhere, right?), which means they could have some kind of fabrication ability - which would allow for production of non-improvised armour.  I'd go with Combat Armour with added helmet, respirator and some kind of goggles (based on the look of it).  They'd make sweet Imperial Guard, too.

[TheAuldGrump]

Yep, most likely in an underground bunker.

I am thinking that unlike the US Germany set up several government bunkers, a bit like NORAD.

A coup takes place in one, most likely the largest, followed by a second coup and purge. What follows next is militarization, and the establishment of a police state. Ghouls are singled out as a subversive element. Pogroms and forced labor.

The current dictator is Franz Krupp - possibly related to the manufacturing family of the same name. Certainly his family controls manufacturing in the Bunker - the armor pictured above is of Krupp manufacture, as is the gun.

There are two such bunkers in the surrounds of Berlin, with the second calling itself Free Berlin. (Stealing loosely from post WWII Berlin & East Berlin.)

An uneasy peace between the two, check points, armed guards, and the reestablishment of The Wall.

Underground The Wall is permeable - sewers, power conduits, water mains - all crisscrossing under the streets.

Crime controls the Underground, making for three power blocs.

A near copy of Super Mutants are called Trolls. Intended as shock troops by the militarists a large number of the Trolls broke free and into the city and its surrounds. Some joined Free Berlin, some joined the crime families of The Underground, some became simple marauders. A fourth group that shares elements with all of the others schemes to seize control of the Vats needed to create more of their kind.

Trolls are resistant to radiation, and have taken over mining and heavy construction.

Meanwhile, I have this amusing image of Switzerland moving its entire population into Vaults, surviving largely unscathed. A pacifistic military state with a fully armed populace. The Super Mutants there are volunteers, and only those that have either already had children or those that are sterile are allowed to take part in the program. The Swiss are very worried about limiting their available gene pool.

All Swiss Super Mutants are trained in martial arts, and all are part of the military. Each Swiss diplomat is escorted by two Super Mutants. Foreigners believe that the Swiss Super Mutants are slow of thought - simple, stupid brutes. In fact every one of them learns multiple languages and all are trained observers....

Don't mess with the Swiss....

The Auld Grump

[Sletchman]

Interesting ideas about Switzerland.  Seems like a far higher degree of preparedness all over, which would make for a very different game to one set stateside.

[MilitiaJim]

How widespread was the FEV research?  [Forced Evolution Virus, the stuff in the vats in Fallout 1 that turn you into a super mutant and sterilize you.  Maybe a centaur too, I'm not clear on where those came from, though they clearly are human based.]  I thought they FEV work was all done in California?

Neat idea with the Swiss.  I might suggest they hardly needed to build many vaults, since they're not really a target.  Geneva might be possible, but they're not chock full of support for the belligerents.

[Sletchman]

How widespread was the FEV research?  [Forced Evolution Virus, the stuff in the vats in Fallout 1 that turn you into a super mutant and sterilize you.  Maybe a centaur too, I'm not clear on where those came from, though they clearly are human based.]  I thought they FEV work was all done in California?

If you accept F3 as canon, then it was also done in DC, if you accept Brotherhood of Steel (which was awful and ignores a heap of established canon) then it was also done in Texas.

It would be kind of weird to have FEV pop up in non-US locations, since it was created and researched by West-Tek (and American defence contractor), but easy to justify.  Given the global climate in the game though, it'd be pretty easy to add that a country (or three) had stolen FEV samples (perhaps even varying strains) as part of an espionage program - perhaps concerned with the idea of American Super Soldiers in Power Armour.  If they had Mariposa strain, they could have worked to further develop it (the way the Enclave did to create Horrigan - all the advantages, none of the mental deficiencies that many share).

[TheAuldGrump]

How widespread was the FEV research?  [Forced Evolution Virus, the stuff in the vats in Fallout 1 that turn you into a super mutant and sterilize you.  Maybe a centaur too, I'm not clear on where those came from, though they clearly are human based.]  I thought they FEV work was all done in California?

If you accept F3 as canon, then it was also done in DC, if you accept Brotherhood of Steel (which was awful and ignores a heap of established canon) then it was also done in Texas.

It would be kind of weird to have FEV pop up in non-US locations, since it was created and researched by West-Tek (and American defence contractor), but easy to justify.  Given the global climate in the game though, it'd be pretty easy to add that a country (or three) had stolen FEV samples (perhaps even varying strains) as part of an espionage program - perhaps concerned with the idea of American Super Soldiers in Power Armour.  If they had Mariposa strain, they could have worked to further develop it (the way the Enclave did to create Horrigan - all the advantages, none of the mental deficiencies that many share).

I think that FEV showing up in non-U.S. locations is about as odd as nuclear weapons research showing up in non-U.S. nations....

Espionage is the name of the game.... Well, Spycraft, anyway.

It will not be FEV - just a parallel development 'inspired by' (or the 'inspiration of') FEV.

The U.S. alone has at least three strains of FEV and the resulting Super Mutants. Given that many strains under development, I doubt that other nations would be far behind.

Though I was picturing FEV as being closer to the 'combat drugs' that were either developed or in development by all the major power blocs in WWII - the most famous is the Nazi-Cooker method of creating Crystal Meth.

Russia, in particular Stalin, continued work on combat drugs and 'super soldiers' - some of the early work on Steroids comes to mind.

If I remember properly, Switzerland already has sufficient fallout shelters to enclose their entire urban population - or at least that was the case in the early eighties.

The Swiss Super Soldiers is more for my entertainment than anything else - though I really like them being trained as spies, not thugs. It gives them flexibility.

I think that to balance that I will give the Swiss Super Soldiers a shorter lifespan, or reliance on cybernetics - heart replacement, kidney augmentation, a less discriminating digestive tract. Now imagine what a Pulse grenade can do to them....

The Auld Grump