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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2015, 05:04:49 AM »

Another option coluld be drivetrhurpg pod system. Some ks are starting to give coupons with some pledges that let backers get the book on cost and shipping only. (Shadowcraft for fate core just did this, we will see how it goes)

In any case I think kickstarter is a good move for Crafty, and will try to back in any way I can.

I keep thinking that there are oportunitties for new business models growing from the crowdfunding field... Shipping, handling and international management screams of a need that shoulld be addressed...
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2015, 02:55:10 PM »

Another option coluld be drivetrhurpg pod system. Some ks are starting to give coupons with some pledges that let backers get the book on cost and shipping only. (Shadowcraft for fate core just did this, we will see how it goes)

The per unit costs aren't even close to offset printing, which a product like Spycraft Third will almost certainly need.

It might work for other products, depending on a wide variety of contributing factors.

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In any case I think kickstarter is a good move for Crafty, and will try to back in any way I can.

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I keep thinking that there are oportunitties for new business models growing from the crowdfunding field... Shipping, handling and international management screams of a need that shoulld be addressed...

Shipping isn't a Kickstarter issue. It's a shipping issue. It's widely understood now (and commonly discussed and widely derided) that shipping is by far the greatest expense in selling anything. Literally everyone is trying to pass the buck on it because it's so high it can devastate a business that isn't extremely careful. Retailers tend not to pay for shipping at all, which means that the cost passes back to distributors and (more commonly) us. The cost of everything goes up as a result. Sad
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2015, 03:29:13 PM »

Okay.  The Koala's interest is once again curious.  With the globally connected world and the days be gone of having to plate set for printing, couldn't content producers set up regional print hubs to dull the pain of say Oceanic, Eastern Bloc, Western Europe?  Digital Printing must have made the printing exercise at least a little easier.  Now they print the PDF and then bind it.  Seems like a job easily exported with out too much fuss?

(And I'm convinced the answer is no, because I'm sure someone has long thought of that, but I'm curious to why that doesn't happen.)
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2015, 04:39:40 AM »

I remember reading an interesting article regarding kickstarters and shipping costs. Might be worth taking a look at it:
http://stonemaiergames.com/how-to-provide-free-shipping-worldwide-on-kickstarter-a-comprehensive-guide/
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2015, 04:57:56 AM »

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I keep thinking that there are oportunitties for new business models growing from the crowdfunding field... Shipping, handling and international management screams of a need that shoulld be addressed...

Shipping isn't a Kickstarter issue. It's a shipping issue. It's widely understood now (and commonly discussed and widely derided) that shipping is by far the greatest expense in selling anything. Literally everyone is trying to pass the buck on it because it's so high it can devastate a business that isn't extremely careful. Retailers tend not to pay for shipping at all, which means that the cost passes back to distributors and (more commonly) us. The cost of everything goes up as a result. Sad

My comment was more on the line of... look, there's aneed for a business that specialises in handling shipping for crowdfunding in general, creating the channels to expedite the process. And I'm not talking about just games, but any kind of cf... Frankly, I don't understand how the big companies haven't developed some kind of specialised deal for cf projects already...
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2015, 05:41:22 AM »

POD makes no sense if you're planning to sell into stores, which means your print run must come from a single offset printer. That rules out regional printing, so the only option you have left is to set up separate fulfillment centers in each region and split ship, but that requires a) phenomenal sales forecasting (so you don't ship too much or too little to any given area), and b) regional fulfillment centers (which, as we've found out over literally years of trying to make it happen, is far, far easier said than done).

The quest continues and there's no end in sight.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2015, 10:30:00 AM »

Right.. so...



We need to get you guys one of these.  Gotcha. 
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2015, 11:02:11 AM »

I remember reading an interesting article regarding kickstarters and shipping costs. Might be worth taking a look at it:
http://stonemaiergames.com/how-to-provide-free-shipping-worldwide-on-kickstarter-a-comprehensive-guide/

Interesting articles
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2015, 06:04:35 PM »

Right.. so...



We need to get you guys one of these.  Gotcha. 

Life would be soooooo much easier.
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2015, 04:52:56 PM »

Hey guys (Pat/Alex) if you need help doing a video for Kickstarter PM me!  I'd love to help you guys out on that end if you feel like it would help bolster the project.  I'll be happy to share some links to prior work.
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