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[Blankbeard]

I've actually commonly used a house rule where you can't use healing spells on yourself regardless of distance. Plus, if you're looking for a non-house rule route, there's Spell Conversion: Distance

Neither one of the tricks will work on a spell with a personal and/or touch range and concentrated spell gives a range of touch, not personal or touch.  (I may be misunderstanding why you mentioned that feat)

[Foghorn]

Well, that would most certainly be because I misread it. Back to campaign qualities and house rules, then. Pretend I was never here.

[Blankbeard]

Well, that would most certainly be because I misread it. Back to campaign qualities and house rules, then. Pretend I was never here.

I don't mean to drive you off.  Stay and wait for the errata on whether mages are able to touch themselves.  

[Theodoran]

A touch spell may not target the caster, but a close spell may or not?

Thank you for all your answers

[Theodoran]

A touch spell may not target the caster, but a close spell may or not?

Thank you for all your answers

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[Sletchman]

A touch spell may not target the caster, but a close spell may or not?

Thank you for all your answers

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I can't see why you couldn't use a close spell on yourself - Touch specifically states that it can't be used on you, but close just any distance up to 50ft.  0ft is a distance that is up to 50ft.  Just my opinion of course (and different campaigns / tables etc etc...).

[Theodoran]

A touch spell may not target the caster, but a close spell may or not?
Thank you for all your answers

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I can't see why you couldn't use a close spell on yourself - Touch specifically states that it can't be used on you, but close just any distance up to 50ft.  0ft is a distance that is up to 50ft.  Just my opinion of course (and different campaigns / tables etc etc...).

I agree with that... but why the spell "levitate" has a distance of "close or personnal". A caster may choose himself as the target of a close spell in every case. It's unnecessary to say the spell may have a personnal distance, unless I don't understand the rules. 

Thank you for your answers.

[Sletchman]

Because of spells like Levitate, it's possible Close wasn't intended to work on the caster themselves.  I can't speak to the writers intent (maybe one will pop into this thread to let us know?) but I know that I'd allow it on a situation basis.  If the spell made sense with the caster as the target, then far as I'm concerned it's OK.  It's possibly not spelled out for just that reason - that it will come down to suitations and individual spells and GMs (which is why spells like Levitate have it specifically spelled out that it does work, all the time).

I'm just guessing, and replying based on experience and personal preference though, so certainly don't take my word as gospel - if Pat / Alex don't answer in this thread after a few days consider posting the question in the big FAQ thread, they usually keep an eye on it.

[Crafty_Pat]

I've got a note down to look at this when I swing back around to Spellbound. I'll try to post an update when I get there, but please recognize that I'll be juggling lots of balls at that point and may not hit everything here on the forums. Regardless, the solution will work its way into the errata.