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jkusters

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In Store Availability?
« on: February 09, 2012, 05:01:17 PM »
Someone purchased a pre-order of this game for me from a local gaming story for the holidays. As you can probably guess, I'm eager to get my hands on the book. However, no-one at the store seems to know when they will be getting their copies.

Does anyone here know when the book should be hitting retail shelves?

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 06:11:20 PM »
It's going to be a little while yet. They're making some final revisions to it right now. Then there will be a short time while it goes back through layout. Then it is sent off to the printers. Then it is shipped to distributors. Then it heads to stores.

At least, I believe that is the order of operations...

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 10:42:02 PM »
Dreamstreamer is correct. We're currently hoping the book will start reaching stores sometime in late March or early April. If you preordered, you will be seeing the book sooner, as we don't have to worry about the warehouse-distributor-retailer step of the process :)
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Re: In Store Availability?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 08:37:02 AM »
any guesses as to when those of us who pre-ordered will get the book in our grubby little mitts?
I REALLY want this book.   ;D

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 11:19:49 AM »
Best guess? A week or two before it hits store shelves. That means, based on Alex's hopes, mid to late March at the soonest.

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Re: In Store Availability?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 11:20:18 AM »
any guesses as to when those of us who pre-ordered will get the book in our grubby little mitts?
I REALLY want this book.   ;D

We'll be updating you guys as we have something of substance to report. I expect you'll see something soon, though I very much doubt it will be an ETA. That's still a couple steps down the road and very much depends on the printer's work load and a variety of other factors that are currently well outside our control.  
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 11:01:20 AM »
It's getting to be late March. Any updates on the "warehouse-distributor-retailer step of the process"? When can I take my receipt to the FLGS to get my copy?

(BTW, in the future, when a person has indicated that someone else had pre-ordered something at a local game store as a gift, it might be wiser *not* to suggest to that person that they should have pre-orderered through the web site. That came across as either intentionally rude or unintentionally insensitive.)

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 12:34:43 PM »
(BTW, in the future, when a person has indicated that someone else had pre-ordered something at a local game store as a gift, it might be wiser *not* to suggest to that person that they should have pre-orderered through the web site. That came across as either intentionally rude or unintentionally insensitive.)

I'm probably just a bit dense, but where did they suggest that the person should have pre-ordered through the web site? Alex mentioned that preorders would see the books before brick-and-mortar purchasers, but I would think that the delay has more to do with the additional hands the product must pass through between Crafty Games and the customer than intentional rudeness or unintentional insensitivity. Maybe I missed something...

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 10:46:04 PM »
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I'm probably just a bit dense, but where did they suggest that the person should have pre-ordered through the web site?

When I asked about when it would appear in retail stores (the subject of this thread) after indicating that it had been bought as a gift, Crafty_Alex responded with "If you preordered, you will be seeing the book sooner". I thought I clearly indicated I had not pre-ordered, that I was specifically asking about availability of the product in a retail store. The person giving the gift feels bad enough that he had to pre-order it (after initially being told it would be available by Solstice); implying that they should have ordered the book through the website instead seems insensitive to me. That, or my initial question was simply overlooked, which seems sloppy. *shrug*

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 07:06:36 AM »
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That, or my initial question was simply overlooked, which seems sloppy. *shrug*

That, or Alex was addressing multiple related concerns in a single reply.  His wording suggests as much.  To actually refer to your specific situation, he would have worded it this way, "If you had preordered, you would be seeing the book sooner."  As is, it suggests that he's pre-emptively answering the question of "If I pre-ordered it direct from the site, will it be any faster?" which would almost certainly come up given Dreamstreamer's breakdown of the process.

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 07:16:43 AM »
When I asked about when it would appear in retail stores (the subject of this thread) after indicating that it had been bought as a gift, Crafty_Alex responded with "If you preordered, you will be seeing the book sooner". I thought I clearly indicated I had not pre-ordered, that I was specifically asking about availability of the product in a retail store. The person giving the gift feels bad enough that he had to pre-order it (after initially being told it would be available by Solstice); implying that they should have ordered the book through the website instead seems insensitive to me. That, or my initial question was simply overlooked, which seems sloppy. *shrug*

Ah, I can see how you see the implication "that they should have ordered the book through the website" given your expectations from the first post. Might I offer a possible alternative? Could it be that Crafty_Alex's first two sentences were to address your question, and the bit about preorders was added in anticipation of the (inevitable?) follow-up question from people that preordered as to when they would see their books?

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 08:25:03 AM »
Thanks for the assist guys. Though I can't speak for Alex, I know that was his intent. We've always made it clear that direct orders are the likeliest to arrive first, if only because - as everyone's mentioned - there are many more hands involved in getting a product into stores.

In answer to that question BTW, it's still going to be a bit. We're very close to shipping the master files to the printer now, but the printing process usually takes 4-6 weeks (sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less), and there's shipping and distribution to consider after that (usually the same stretch of time, again give or take, to get books from the printer to our fulfillment house to distributors and finally into stores).

Direct order sales will be shipped as soon as we receive the books back from the printer, which should probably shave about a month off that process (once again, give or take).

We'll keep you posted as it all comes together.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »
So, June, then, for those of us who had caring people in our lives purchase the book for a Christmas/Solstice gift at our friendly local gaming store. Gotcha.

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 01:32:51 PM »
So, June, then, for those of us who had caring people in our lives purchase the book for a Christmas/Solstice gift at our friendly local gaming store. Gotcha.

For what it's worth, we are sorry for that. Unfortunately we would have been unable to deliver the softcover books to stores by December even if the book at been available at Gencon.
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