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« on: December 23, 2011, 12:08:15 AM »

SOPA supporters are the people who built the online piracy industry.

TL;DR version: SOPA, ladies and gentlemen, is a golden example of the long con as it reaches its end game.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2011, 08:02:18 AM »

They got what they wanted and now they are just leaving...
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2011, 08:35:15 AM »

More like they're trying to ensure they're the only game in town.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 09:24:54 AM »

I'm not going to say that death is too good for the folks who claim to support SOPA, but I will say a swift death is too good.  They deserve something lingering and painful.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 10:09:54 AM »

You know the worst part.. and I normally don't harp about my job because of various reasons.. however.. SOPA crawls right up my exhaust port and dies.  We're trying to fight an almost BACKWARDS battle of cyber-everything.. and these idiots on the hill are blowing hundreds of thousands, millions, billions.. whatever.. trying to protect corporate assets?  But yet I get told I can't hire another $50k a year analyst because it's not in the budget?!  FU!

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OpSec?  Financial Security?  Infrastructure Security?  Bah.  F that.  We need to make sure no one stole the latest Jay Z album. 

#rant.  (at least for the moment.)
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 12:13:25 PM »

Several years back Eric Flint wrote a series of columns for the now defunct e-zine Jim Baen's Universe regarding copyright, DRM, piracy, and legislation regarding them. They're somewhat focused on these issues as they relate to writers, ebooks, and the publishing industry but they have more then enough to understand why none of these laws work and he does spend a good bit of time on the history and nature of copyright, why it's wrong, and why it's (or rather was before it's been twisted to it's current state) better then the alternative.

They're still worth a read.

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 02:21:08 AM »

SOPA: Bane of the D&D Blogger?
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 08:00:44 AM »

The group of people who A) support SOPA and B) are good people, is a null set.  I'm just sayin'.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 08:22:28 AM »

The fact that a US Law can effect citizens in other countries, whose laws they are not breaking is absolutely and fundamentally wrong.  I know plenty of very good American people, but it's very hard to not hate the country (and it's "government of the people, for the people") that is at the heart of this.
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 08:53:24 AM »

those who know about it here, hate it, trust me it is not  a popular bill amongst the people.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 08:59:35 AM »

The group of people who A) support SOPA and B) are good people, is a null set.  I'm just sayin'.

I would say it's very small. The set of A, B, and C) understand what it says and does is null.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 05:14:30 PM »

Forget the Mayan Calender, here's the real apocalypse.
Thanks for the video, Mr. A.
And yeah, not so much respect in being American these days. I have love for the president, but man there's some real shame in some of this stuff.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 07:49:32 AM »

The group of people who A) support SOPA and B) are good people, is a null set.  I'm just sayin'.

I would say it's very small. The set of A, B, and C) understand what it says and does is null.
You can't be a good person and support SOPA.  The ignorance or malice or corruption required to support SOPA prevents good person-ness.  Supporting SOPA doesn't make you a bad person, it just proves that you are one.

As a side note:  The numbers used to support anti "piracy" efforts are most charitably described as feces.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 06:03:45 PM »

The fact that a US Law can effect citizens in other countries, whose laws they are not breaking is absolutely and fundamentally wrong.  I know plenty of very good American people, but it's very hard to not hate the country (and it's "government of the people, for the people") that is at the heart of this.

We're just the warm up to Global Government:  The UN: Take 2 Experiment.  This time.. with REAL power!  It'll be fine.. don't worry. *goes to hide in his bunker*

I heard Iran is in charge of Human Rights... and Zimbabwe gets to be the Financial minister.  U.S. and Canada will finally join Sweden and the Fins in the "DILIGAF" section of the world.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 08:15:14 AM »

The fact that a US Law can effect citizens in other countries, whose laws they are not breaking is absolutely and fundamentally wrong.  I know plenty of very good American people, but it's very hard to not hate the country (and it's "government of the people, for the people") that is at the heart of this.

We're just the warm up to Global Government:  The UN: Take 2 Experiment.  This time.. with REAL power!  It'll be fine.. don't worry. *goes to hide in his bunker*

I heard Iran is in charge of Human Rights... and Zimbabwe gets to be the Financial minister.  U.S. and Canada will finally join Sweden and the Fins in the "DILIGAF" section of the world.

It won't ever happen. There's no way that those who are firmly religious in the US would ever put up with those pesky whimsical laws that grant human rights to all citizens.
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