magic stone uses the small rock as a pebble?

[Charlie D]

For magic stone, I assume pebble is equal to small rock from table 4.21 except that the spell changes the 3 small rocks magically to each do different damage chosen by the caster?

Would it be more clear if magic hurled ammunition was replaced with hurled weapon: small rock and the types of damage possible listed? It took me a while to find small rock to use with the spell and I saw one review mention this spell (the review saw that no damage was listed and noted it as missing text but I don't think that is the case).

Also, is the small rock magical because it does different types of damage? Or does it being magical have an additional effect?

Finally, I assume each small rock get thrown one at a time. Does anyone run the spell differently (like getting to chuck all 3 at once)?

[Crafty_Pat]

For magic stone, I assume pebble is equal to small rock from table 4.21

Three of those would work in a pinch but I'd allow much smaller stones (actual pebbles), as well - unless there was a narrative reason not to, anyway.

except that the spell changes the 3 small rocks magically to each do different damage chosen by the caster?

Yes.

Would it be more clear if magic hurled ammunition was replaced with hurled weapon: small rock and the types of damage possible listed? It took me a while to find small rock to use with the spell

We don't automatically list spell components on gear tables. A lot of them are things you're just assumed to be near in appropriate environments.

and I saw one review mention this spell (the review saw that no damage was listed and noted it as missing text but I don't think that is the case).

The spell implicitly points to the damage types listed on pages 210-211. We're learning that folks want more (pardon the pun) spelled out and that's something we'll be doing more in future products. Of course, it will also mean less content in the same space, but such are the breaks.

Also, is the small rock magical because it does different types of damage? Or does it being magical have an additional effect?

We use lots of terms as keywords to trigger other effects, and to justify various things the GM may want to accomplish in the game. "Magical" isn't one that comes up a lot but for example I'd say, off-hand and not universally, that effects that target magical items might also be able to target these stones - though only until they're used, as after that they most likely revert - that's also left open to interpretation on purpose).

As you can see, the game intentionally requires GM and player input. We believe this is a strong feature that sets Fantasy Craft apart from a lot of other d20 games.

Finally, I assume each small rock get thrown one at a time. Does anyone run the spell differently (like getting to chuck all 3 at once)?

Take a look at the Ranged Combat Feats section (page 92).

[Sletchman]

If you're going to use the spell a bit you could always just tell your GM you want a "Bag of Pebbles" with a set number in it (in case you go to an environment that doesn't have pebbles in it).  Couple with a Sling and some Hurled feat support you're rocking.  Of course some GMs would rule that the spell actually produces pebbles (made of elemental energy) and so you don't actually need them - it's all very setting dependant (a very big feature of the product).

[Antilles]

Here's a bit more written about Magic Stone, in the FAQ thread.

[Charlie D]

and I saw one review mention this spell (the review saw that no damage was listed and noted it as missing text but I don't think that is the case).

The spell implicitly points to the damage types listed on pages 210-211. We're learning that folks want more (pardon the pun) spelled out and that's something we'll be doing more in future products. Of course, it will also mean less content in the same space, but such are the breaks.

The spell points to the damage types, which I get and don't need spelled out further.

The question is, how much damage do the magical pebbles do not what type of damage. Ammunition is not listed in the weapons section which is where the confusion comes in. If the pebbles became magical hurled thrown weapons that do any type of damage, that would make sense.

The description could read: You transmute 3 pebbles into javelins; you choose a different type of damage for each.
 
That way, the player knows the range, the amount of damage, and is directed to choose different types of damage.

[spinningdice]

as long as it's a hurled ammunition, i.e. for a sling or blowgun, you can use magic stone to create ammo for it from pebbles. As gm I'd also allow them to be used as small rocks, without any seperate launcher.

[Crafty_Pat]

as long as it's a hurled ammunition, i.e. for a sling or blowgun, you can use magic stone to create ammo for it from pebbles. As gm I'd also allow them to be used as small rocks, without any seperate launcher.

That's the intent. Sorry it wasn't clear.

[Charlie D]

as long as it's a hurled ammunition, i.e. for a sling or blowgun, you can use magic stone to create ammo for it from pebbles. As gm I'd also allow them to be used as small rocks, without any seperate launcher.

That's the intent. Sorry it wasn't clear.

No problem, I appreciate all the responses to my questions. I just wanted to make sure no one thought they should be throwing magic stone grenades around!

As I mentioned on another thread, I'm reading FC. I post here with questions or things that I really like. So all the feedback really helps!

[Antilles]

And I'd imagine you asking questions is actually helpful for the designers as well, as it can help point out things that might need to be improved, like the Magic Stone text. I too thought it was 'change the damage type on 3 small rocks', not all thrown weapon ammunition, which definitely makes it a little bit better in my eyes compared to when I first read it.

[Morgenstern]

I'd allow it for small rocks, slings, sling-staves, and... the pellet bow .

[Sletchman]

No problem, I appreciate all the responses to my questions. I just wanted to make sure no one thought they should be throwing magic stone grenades around!

Oh my gosh.  If there isn't a Magic Stone II in Spellbound, I know what I'm going to be license-to-improvising first...