NPC Builder Update

[Antilles]

You've got the latest version of Java?

[meadicus]

You shouldn't need Java installed. The NPC Builder is 100% Javascript. But it is written in Java through magical tools provided by Google. It won't work on download because which files you need are only decided when the javascript is running, something the browser doesn't compensate for when it saves the page. I could wrap the tool up in a zip and put a download link on the site. I'll put it on the loading page as well.

I'm not sure what could be going wrong for you MKerwin. The builder is built through the same google toolkit as all the google web apps except gmail (maps, google+, picassa, etc.) so should work on any platform. The fact that it doesn't work regardless of browser has me quite confused.

[MKerwin]

You shouldn't need Java installed. The NPC Builder is 100% Javascript. But it is written in Java through magical tools provided by Google. It won't work on download because which files you need are only decided when the javascript is running, something the browser doesn't compensate for when it saves the page. I could wrap the tool up in a zip and put a download link on the site. I'll put it on the loading page as well.

I'm not sure what could be going wrong for you MKerwin. The builder is built through the same google toolkit as all the google web apps except gmail (maps, google+, picassa, etc.) so should work on any platform. The fact that it doesn't work regardless of browser has me quite confused.

I don't know what I did (I've been fiddling with options and trying to get it to work all night) but I got it to open in IE. Still confused, though. The google web apps work fine in all my browsers. I'd rather not use IE if I can help it. But at least if we can't figure something out I can still use the thing now.

[Agent 333]

You shouldn't need Java installed. The NPC Builder is 100% Javascript. But it is written in Java through magical tools provided by Google.

Isn't GWT awesome?

[Agent 333]

Minor annoyance more than a bug: Every time the name field is changed the cursor moves to the end of the line, making it very difficult to insert text.

Also, the link from the Crafty Links page is broken, I had to search up this thread in order to find a working link...

[Gentry]

You don't have it bookmarked? 

[meadicus]

Minor annoyance more than a bug: Every time the name field is changed the cursor moves to the end of the line, making it very difficult to insert text.

I don't see this myself, what browser are you using?

Also, the link from the Crafty Links page is broken, I had to search up this thread in order to find a working link...

I just tried the link and it worked fine. Still could be a bizarre browser/site configuration issue.

Sadly I haven't much time to spend on the NPC builder at the moment but I'll try and look into these things if I can find a moment.

Of course if anyone else knows Java/GWT and wants to lend a hand it'd be greatly appreciated.

[Tamdrik]

Since it looks like this (awesome) tool is still being actively maintained...

1) Is there any difference between the version in the "npc-beta" directory and the one in the "npc-builder" directory?

2) The Bright quality is only costing out at 1 XP/grade in the builder, whereas the book says it's 3XP/grade.

3) I manually built an Elephant in the NPC builder (twice) and came out with a different XP value (79) than the pre-built one in the bestiary (74).  Is the book elephant intentionally discounted, or is there another XP-value discrepancy in the NPC builder?  My cursory examination can't find any problems with the XP values in the NPC builder, so I'm guessing the book XP value is either discounted or an error.

Thanks for putting such a useful tool together, along with the Treasure Generator!

[meadicus]

Since it looks like this (awesome) tool is still being actively maintained...

1) Is there any difference between the version in the "npc-beta" directory and the one in the "npc-builder" directory?

The beta contains the treasure generator, which the release version does not as I haven't got around to rolling that feature out yet. I use the beta site to put out new features for people to try & test before they get put into the 'proper' site. The treasure generator is well tested now and will be going into the main site soon.

2) The Bright quality is only costing out at 1 XP/grade in the builder, whereas the book says it's 3XP/grade.

Thanks, I'll check that out.

3) I manually built an Elephant in the NPC builder (twice) and came out with a different XP value (79) than the pre-built one in the bestiary (74).  Is the book elephant intentionally discounted, or is there another XP-value discrepancy in the NPC builder?  My cursory examination can't find any problems with the XP values in the NPC builder, so I'm guessing the book XP value is either discounted or an error.

I can't speak for the accuracy of the book but I've found it pretty reliable, though I've not checked the elephant specifically. I added the 'explain xp' button to the NPC builder specifically so its total can be checked down to each individual quality and trait.

[Agent 333]

You don't have it bookmarked?  

Changed computers recently, lost all my bookmarks.

Oh, and I'm using Google Chrome on a Windows XP machine.

[Salvatos]

I hope you don't mind me necroing this thread, but I was wondering if meadicus is still around and updating this? According to his profile he hasn't been posting in a long time but he logged in a few days ago. I was wondering if the new classes would be added to the tool and, later, Spellbound. Otherwise it would be cool if someone else could take over (I might even try my hand at it but JS isn't my forte and I know nothing about Java and Google's tools).

[meadicus]

Hi Salvatos, I am still aroung but not playing anything crafty at the moment so I'm less active than I once was. I will be updating the builder with new stuff as it comes out, the class abilities for NPCs will go in as soon as I get home from the business trip I've been on, probably next weekend.

Since you raised it if anyone out there does know java and get they're welcome to lend a hand.

[Agent 333]

I'd offer to help, but my time is pretty limited these days, not sure if I'd actually be any help...

[Salvatos]

Glad to hear it. I would also like to take this opportunity to vote in favor of a download link. I found a copy of it partly translated to French, but we've switched back to the English rules so it gets confusing.

[meadicus]

The builder has now been updated with all the class abilities from the Avatar, Inquisitor and Crusader