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4DVENTURE!
« on: August 15, 2007, 07:43:40 PM »
So, less than 20 hrs to go until Wizards announce 4th Edition.

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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 07:51:46 PM »
For those wondering what the heck Mr. Anderson is talking about, the D&D site has changed to a timer.

Time to cancel all my 3.5 pre-orders.   >:(

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 08:51:50 PM »
It was never a matter of "if", it was a matter of "when".  They seemed to be strongly hinting towards it early last year.  They didn't like the response it generated, so they backed off.  Saga Edition was just a test of the waters for the mechanics.

They can do whatever they want, it's there sandbox.  I'm just the one stuck trying to build a business plan around it.  It's either gonna take, or the drones will finally say, "you know, I'm perfectly happy with what I have now."  I heard some chest pounding over Second Edition, but that resistance never materialized.  No one said a whimper about 3.5 until the day it came out, and then I got stuck with a flood of customers and no product.  3.5 also popped the D20 bubble (or at least accelerated the deflation.)

The only thing I can say about 4E is that my RPG stock has been reduced to a single rack of 3.5 books (nothing else sells in this area), and I can't clear them out now without looking like I'm getting out of roleplaying.  So I have to eat these damn books and hope 4E is a smashing success.  If it's not... well, my job, as I know and love it, ceases to be.

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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 09:25:29 PM »
 :-\
Much sympathy #3. The local FLGS's are gonna hate this too, it's a bloodbath in the lurking.
I'm not sure if I care, nothing I play with any relish will be 4th Ed. dependent, I'm quite ready to fail to give a crap.
Still, /hugs

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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 10:07:17 AM »
And to make the whole countdown even more redundant, you get the official word here at ICV.

I wonder how long it will take for someone to hack the site for other games? <BEG>

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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 11:05:11 AM »
Ok, that's it. No more D&D for me.
Yay for SC and L5R!
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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 03:40:12 PM »
I figured I'd watch the end of the countdown from work and see what happens.

It counted down to 1 second, changed to "Now!" and then...

"Service Unavailable"

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 03:51:35 PM »
I figured I'd watch the end of the countdown from work and see what happens.

It counted down to 1 second, changed to "Now!" and then...

"Service Unavailable"



Same here...and probably about 10 billion other people.

An inauspicious start for the 4th ed. line. :P
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 03:56:51 PM »
I think they were focusing on the Indy end of things more.

Just goes to show you that even big companies can succumb to the power of the intertruck!
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 04:07:52 PM »
Well, the site's back up, but it's as slow as some sort of really slow thing.

May 2008. Huh. I'll probably stop at a book store and browse the book. See if it's worth considering. If nothing else, it'll mean I can grab up the 3.5 books that I'd like to mine for ideas for other systems cheap.
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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2007, 04:12:37 PM »
30-level classes.

20-level racial classes.

Saga Editions feat/talent lay out.

Semi-compulsory paid online content

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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2007, 04:39:50 PM »
Slight correction:
The website is sort of back up.

Haven't been able to get at any of the previews or anything yet.
I think I may try to make a meme out of "Service Unavailable".  ;D
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Re: 4DVENTURE!
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2007, 07:03:36 PM »
Hi there,

I have checked out Star Wars SAGA and like what I had seen. They went at this to see what they could do to speed up the process without changing the game too radically. If you look at each component and compare it to the 3.x edition then it will look radically different. On the whole it looks somewhat similar.

Creating detailed NPCs are easier. Add in some of the ideas from Spycraft 2.0 to NPC development and adventure design gets much easier. I do not know how much of SAGA they will use in 4th ED, but I look forward to it.

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2007, 07:26:42 PM »
Yep, looks like they wanged themselves.  Sing it a lullaby, it's done

When all is said and done, I'm all for making the game easier to get into. Adding Saga changes does that, as well as finally putting all the tools for an online game in one spot (for a nominal fee, of course.  )  I just don't like the pace at all, especially after the joke that was 3.5.  It feels like Hasbro is trying to milk it for all it's worth.

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2007, 07:45:50 PM »
I wonder about the line "Concepts for 4th Edition gameplay were tested in the new Star Wars RPG, and the Book of 9 Swords."
Specifically the patch about the Book of 9 Swords. I owned that for a while, and it was pretty ambitious. Key to that ambition was doing a lot to offer melee specialists more combat options in the form of semi-spell effects, reactive abilities, and generally stuff more complex then "I swing, I hit!, I do damage, I repeat." Not tricks, not like SC, more limited by feats/classes/lists/themes.
Nine Swords was, incidentally, not approved material for any Living campaign I knew of (or at least played). Probably due to a cocktail of balance issues (You hit me, I reactively blast you for 4d6 Fire! Whee!) and distaste (as expressed by the local Greyhawk Triad members I'd chatted with at the time) conjured by....creativity! Who knows.

And though I can't find the entry I'm sure I read somewhere the first updated D20 setting will be The Forgotten Realms. I'll admit, that's kind of interesting...I'm hoping FR got chosen to boot Greyhawk as the official setting. Cuz, y'know, Greyhawk sucks thundering buffalo toe. Could be wise, could be brutal.
Since about 1996 the list of local Forgotten Realms fans has diminished under waves of Harry Potter, literary criticism for Salvatore and Greenwood, and the pressure created by those hideously expensive FR hardcovers themselves. That's in addition to the long-gone Living City -the former Living bastion of the Forgotten Realms.

Or in plainer terms, if the change comes will anyone give a crap? Living SoylentGreyhawk is rather popular in the circles I know, though not for the setting so much as the PC's wedded to it. That's just life in the Duchy of Urnst though; chatter at Origins year after year suggests to me a higher degree of satisfaction elsewhere.

Irregardless, I'll probably buy and play. Not for any real love, WTB Classic Fantasy plz, but because it's what will probably be going on most weekends. And THAT is the great decider because even when the mod sucks the company's grand and the pizza's at least decent.