The rapier

[mach1.9pants]

Hey Pawsplay, welcome to the FC forums

Yeah it is not 100% representative of a real late mediaeval/renaissance rapier. But nothing else is either. Crafty took a decision to make it reasonably realistic, makes sense, but is a neat different weapon to other blades, I reckon. It is not like 3E where is has little do differentiate it from other blades. I like it, it makes it an interesting weapon, but it certainly is one of those preference things... house rule away, my friend.

The bits of FC weps that I do not like are the bits they didn't change from 3E, like falchions being 2H, WTF?

[Deral]

I think the rules follow a more cinematic approach than anything else, but you're also looking at things a little too stringently, I know it hurts to see a name tied to something you don't think it fits, but if you want a rapier that does lethal, take a Razor Sword, or really any of the fencing blades, call it a rapier, bam- rapier that does Lethal damage, what the weapon is isn't really anything but fluff and there's nothing nailing the fluff into place (or the rules, really).

[aegis]

In addition to all the other methods, you can simply convert the damage to lethal by accepting a -4 penalty to the attack check (page 209).

Rapiers do not deal subdual damage. Stress damage cannot be converted, and cannot kill.

You're absolutely true. But in this specific case, as it already arose (is the conjugation correct?) in my campaign, I houserule it. I consider that stress damage from weapons (and from weapons only) can be converted to lethal with a -4 penalty. Might I even suggest such a modification for the errata?

[mach1.9pants]

Yeah I like that, covers both bases then.

[MugMug]

Amusingly, you can convert a club's damage to lethal, but not a three pound piece of sharpened steel. Just out of curiosity, how many people reading this thread have ever hefted a rapier?

I have, and also fought with a modern (sport) foil. I'm really the wrong person to ask, however, as "cool" trumped "real" for me some time ago.

Walter

[MugMug]

as it already arose (is the conjugation correct?)

Maybe (probably?), but the more common usage would be "has already arisen." That's a different conjugation, but my formal grammar sucks so I couldn't tell you its name.

As an aside, I want to mention how humbled I am at the English proficiency of the non-native speakers on this board. I think I took this for granted before moving to a country that speaks a different language than my native tongue.

Walter

[Agent 333]

You're absolutely true correct. But in this specific case, as it already arose in my campaign, I houseruled it. I consider ruled that stress damage from weapons (and from weapons only) can be converted to lethal with a -4 penalty. Might I even suggest such a modification for the errata?

Aegis, I corrected your grammar in the quote. Please don't take this as an insult, but as a genuine desire to help you for the future. Your English is way better than my French; je parle français comme une vache espangnol.

Also, I think that's probably a pretty good house rule.

[Aldus Vertten]

je parle français comme une vache espangnol.

Spanish what?!?

[Agent 333]

je parle français comme une vache espangnol.

Spanish what?!?

Well, at least my French is better than yours. :-p

It's a cow, mon ami.

[Mortadelo]

je parle français comme une vache espangnol.

Spanish what?!?

Well, at least my French is better than yours. :-p

It's a cow, mon ami.

Una vaca, Aldus

[Aldus Vertten]

 

Ok, for a moment there i tought it was a reference to a spanish vasque... i was ready to make some jokes to my vasque girlfriend in your account...

[pawsplay]

It is sort of peculier that Farstride Folk are rapier resistant.

[Nepenthe]

It is sort of peculier that Farstride Folk are rapier resistant.

Everybody needs a rule to obsess over. I'm glad you seem to have found yours.

[mach1.9pants]

It's a cow, mon ami.

Fetchez La Vache!

[pawsplay]

I was looking at the book, specifically at my scholar's sword thoughts. I guess I was initially thinking "court sword" or "student's sword" but that is actually a smallsword; once i read the description, including the flexible blade and the silk tassel, I realized the weapon was a taiji jian, which is, indeed, called a scholar's sword in Chinese. So even though there is nothing mechanically wrong with basing a sword on the scholar's sword, I wanted to mention that the named weapon is used in Wudang styles, not in Western fencing. It stands in quite well for other cut-and-thrust swords that, at various times, would have been called simply "sword," "rapier," or "broadsword."