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« on: September 01, 2009, 09:47:17 PM »

FantasyCraft offers a very small list of named armors which theoretically encompasses the whole spectrum of armor worn in both real life and the realms of fantasy. Some types of armor are mentioned in the descriptions, like banded mail in the scale mail description or ring mail in studded leather.
But most of the missing armors from Norse Byrnies to Saracen kazghands aren't mentiond, both due to space and the fact that they aren't "iconic".

Here's a small list of real life armors and their FC equivalents (this time only medieval armor, reason era and ancient armor will come later):

Byzantine Breastplate: A simple breastplate design worn with chain arm covering.
Equals to: Partial Platemail

Norse Chainmail Byrnie: Long chain shirt covering the torso, the shoulders and legs down to the knees. Worn with an open helm with chain aventails and splint bracers and greaves.
Equals to: Moderate Chainmail with light fittings

Norse Splint Mail: Splint armor covering the torso and the arms, worn with an aventailed helmet.
Equals to: Partial Scalemail with light fittings.

Steel plated Chainmail: A full suit of chain reinforced with plate elements, worn with a great helm.
Equals to: Moderate Chainmail with heavy fittings and the Reinforced upgrade.

Cuirbouille: A set of armor made out of boiled leather.
Equals to: Partial Hardened Leather

Studded Cuirbouille/Frog Skin: A studded version of the Cuirbouille.
Equals to: Partial Hardened Leather with the Reinforced upgrade

Coat of Plates/Brigandine Coat: Torso armor made out of small metal plates riveted to a leather or canvas doublet.
Equals to: Partial Scalemail

Light Platemail: Plate armor covering the torso, the shins and arms, with chainmail used as protection of uncovered body parts.
Equals to: Partial Platemail with heavy fittings.

Brigandine Hauberk: A brigandine covering the whole torso, the forearms and shoulders, with a belted skirt for leg protection.
Equals to: Partial Scalemail with light fittings

Field Plate: A suit of Platemail encasing the whole body, worn with a closed helm.
Equals to:  Moderate Platemail with heavy fittings.

Slavic Leather Lamellar: A set of Lamellar armor made out of small leather plates that have been cured with beeswax.
Equals to: Partial Hardened Leather

Lamellar/Saracen jawshan: Metal armor made out of small metal plates bound together with leather. Worn either as torso protection or a full suit reinforced with chainmail.
Equals to: Partial Scalemail or Moderate Scalemail with light fittings.

Saracen dir/Chain Hauberk: Chainmail covering the whole upper body and legs down to the knees, worn with an aventailed helmet.
Equals to: Partial Chainmail with heavy fittings

Saracen kazaghand: Chainmail armor hidden in a cotton coat. Protects the whole body save for the feet and the head.
Equals to: Moderate Chainmail with light fittings and the Discreet upgrade
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 01:33:38 AM »

How do you feel the tools hold up?

Encompassing a vast range of protection in a short set of options was a major challenge in this chapter. Your 'this = that' entries seem pretty plausible and likely to generate sensible stat lines. Fittings seemed to help give the rules some wiggle room.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 02:12:30 AM »

How do you feel the tools hold up?

Encompassing a vast range of protection in a short set of options was a major challenge in this chapter. Your 'this = that' entries seem pretty plausible and likely to generate sensible stat lines. Fittings seemed to help give the rules some wiggle room.

Good, surprisingly good even though it's the second day I have FC.
Most standard armors will be easy to convert, my only problem lies with truly exotic armor that goes beyond history and into pure fantasy/D&D.
I really like the fact that the fittings actively help to make the armors different from the base.
At first I was wary of the idea (you may remember the armor topic several months back), but now I must say that I'm really impressed. You truly have beaten D&D when it comes to armor.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 02:45:32 AM »

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You truly have beaten D&D when it comes to armor.
Yep, a much better system. Not that beating DnD when it comes to armour is that hard
Quote from: 3E PHB
Splint Mail, Umm is the same as Banded mail. But a bit different. I think. Not sure....so we put some stupid spikes on the illustrations, WIN Smiley
Not dissing your system though, FC is very similar to my 3E house rules, although mine a little simpler.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 10:58:25 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 01:29:11 PM »

I am loving the gear in FC.  The armor and weapons specifically cover all of the mechanical range that the GM needs, flavor can just be layered on by the GM.  I love the fact that there are no useless or redundant entries.

I especially love the weapons.  Every single one is mechanically different, not just a different description and damage.  And there are something like five mechanically different fencing weapons?  Touche baby!

I have been finding it quite easy to emphasize character concepts with their gear.  What Aragathor did here is a great example of that, thumbs up, man.

Also thumbs up Crafty!
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 01:32:18 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 06:43:50 PM »

Armor from the age of reason and the renaissance. 
Western armor is easy, you really need two - the breastplate and the half plate. Eastern armor is mor fun with it's complicated ideas (google the karacena or hussar armor, it's worth it).

Russian Lamellar and Plate armor: A combination of a Lamellar torso armor and plate protection for the limbs, backed by chainmail with an closed helmet. Often heavily gilded or decorated.
Equals to: Moderate Scale Mail with heavy fittings.

Russian heavy Chainmail: A coat of chainmail using a 6-in-1 pattern.
Equals to: Either moderate Chainmail with light fittings and the Reinforced upgrade or partial Chainmail with the Reinforced upgrade.

Russian/Ottoman Chain and Plate armor: A coat of chainmail with added plate elements protecting the torso. Worn with an open helmet.
Equals to: Moderate Chainmail with heavy fittings and the Reinforced upgrade

Ottoman Chain and Splint armor: An armor made of large metal splints sewn onto a full coat of chainmail, worn with splint gauntlets, chain-and-plate greaves and an open helm.
Equals to: Moderate Scale Mail with heavy fittings.

Maximillian Plate Armor: The heaviest suit of articulated plate armor ever produced, every single suit was custom fitted to the user. Many sets were covered in expensive decorations, though those which were used on the battlefield were often left unadorned.
Equals to: Articulated Plate with heavy fittings and the Fitted upgrade

Half Plate: A suit of Plate armor covering most of the body save for the legs, which were sometimes protected by chain. Worn by Cuirassiers.
Equals to Articulated Plate with light fittings.

Infantry Breastplate: A simple breastplate design used during the renaissance, it protected the torso and was often worn with an open helmet, like the morion.
Equals to: Partial Platemail.

Polish Hussar Armor: Plate armor worn by the winged hussars, used chain to reinforce joints and was worn with an half open helmet.
Equals to: Moderate Plate with light fittings.

Polish Karacena Armor: Scale armor made out of small coin shaped scales sewn onto a leather coat. Often decorated with brass or gold. Worn with scale gauntlets and an open helm.
Equals to: Partial Scale Mail with light fittings.
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