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« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2009, 03:17:22 PM »

I'd like to take this opportunity to plug the wiki.  If you don't like some of the racial features, change em.

http://www.crafty-games.com/node/871

I can't say they're all right, but they're mostly close.  I don't think your game will explode if you tweak the races using these values.
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« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2009, 04:58:43 PM »

Because D&D has apparently forever ruined the idea of flavorful non-humans who are anything other than humans with 1 strange feature, I present - Elves with no flavor at all!

I believe the correct terminology is "Ruined FOREVER".

Type: Medium folk (1x1) with a Reach of 1.

* [1] +2 Wis, -2 Con
* [2] Elfsight: Per written elf.
* [.5] Light Sleeper: Per written elf.
* [1] Natural Elegance: Per written elf.
* [.5] Pointy Ears: You have pointy ears and pretty clothes.
* [2] Sharp Hearing: Per written elf.

And there you have it. All the regular elf stuff, without any serious modifiers or penalties. Dull as dishwater.

I'm quoting this for two reasons.  One, I believe it's foolish to try to retract something on the internet by deleting it, even more so after it's been quoted.  Second, it's going to send Blankbeard scrambling back to the drawing board.  Grin

I sense sarcasm and frustration.

Well logic hasn't fared so well this far.

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Alex I know that you and the gang have put a lot of effort into FC, but understand us the customers.
We area group of people that has tastes so varied that a single race presentation might not do. Your elves are great for LOTR-style campaigns where elves are really quite powerful. But many of us come from the D&D tradition of having elves that are not some semi-deific beings but a different species, with no real extra power compared to humans.
Your elves are not D&D elves, but claiming that D&D elves are not flavorful because of stats is, well, not right.
Allow others to have their opinions, because right now, in my eyes, you don't.

How about Crafty stating repeatedly over the past two years that the did not make, nor did they ever have any intention of making, a perfect D&D conversion?  How they've told you repeatedly that at your table, feel free to change it, to mix up the iconics in your world.  How they even giving their blessing to trying a hand at it yourself, like they alway have?

Imagine if you built your house with your own two hands and a couple years of hard work and sweat, and you painted your house blue, and you stood back and admired your big blue house and invited the neighborhood to come check it out.  Then everyone else on the block is coming over to your house daily to tell you that it's a beautiful house, but why blue when green is clearly the nation's favorite color and a perfectly sensible aesthetic choice, and it would looks fantastic if you would have just painted it green.  It's a good house, solidly built beyond code with the latest in environmentally friendly tech to withstand any natural disaster.  But why not green? Green is classic.  Green is traditional.  We've been painting houses green for years.  I'd buy your house right now, but I'd have to repaint it green.  Don't you love green?  What kind of homebuilder would dislike green?  What are you, some kind of marxist green hater?!?

You would be annoyed.  You would be angered.  You will probably want to pop someone in their green-lovin' mouth.  That's how Alex is feeling right now.
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« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2009, 05:32:26 PM »

Type: Medium folk (1x1) with a Reach of 1.

* [1] +2 Wis, -2 Con
* [2] Elfsight: Per written elf.
* [.5] Light Sleeper: Per written elf.
* [1] Natural Elegance: Per written elf.
* [.5] Pointy Ears: You have pointy ears and pretty clothes.
* [2] Sharp Hearing: Per written elf.

And there you have it. All the regular elf stuff, without any serious modifiers or penalties. Dull as dishwater.

I'm quoting this for two reasons.  One, I believe it's foolish to try to retract something on the internet by deleting it, even more so after it's been quoted.  Second, it's going to send Blankbeard scrambling back to the drawing board.  Grin

I did cry a bit when I saw it, but then it disappeared and I felt better.  Now it's back.  Shocked

Actually, it required only a simple adjustment.  That's my story anyway.  It cleared up a problem with the Reviled trait that had been pointed out just a few minutes earlier too. Smiley

I think that Fantasy Craft does a wonderful job of being a classic fantasy toolkit.  Unlike most toolkits, it also has a flavor all its own.  If you like the system but don't like the flavor, you have a License to Improvise your own.  And that's the best thing of all.  Except Owl Nation, which rocks on toast.
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« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2009, 07:05:35 PM »


You would be annoyed.  You would be angered.  You will probably want to pop someone in their green-lovin' mouth.  That's how Alex is feeling right now.

That was a very welcome laugh. 

I just want to say, that I personally loved to see actual penalties on various races in a fantasy game other than alterations of the numbers for their stats.  Dwarves not swimming and elves healing slower gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. 

I'm not a long time fan of the Fantasy Craft project, but I tuned in about three months ago and have waited for its release.  I'm about half way through the book and have been loving the feel of it.  When my FLGS gets it I will be picking it up, and dancing with joy over the disadvantages that are present within the system.  Thanks for a great product that limits character creation options, but does not ban them. 

But as an aside...who in their right mind would paint their house blue!?  Green is totally where it is at. 
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« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2009, 07:20:39 PM »

Green is a horrible color for a house. Blue is much better. Unless it's sky blue, then it gets hit by helicopters.
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« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2009, 09:45:35 PM »

then it gets hit by helicopters.
Which is why you need it built from pre-stressed cement.
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« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2009, 12:06:41 PM »

I'm on Crafty's side, as always.
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« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2009, 07:05:15 PM »

I'm really sorry I asked now....
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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2009, 09:31:35 PM »

Don't be.  You've got options now.  You can change the favored classes or replace them with something else.  Play with the races and make them suit your world.  Then post them so I can steal your ideas.  Grin
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« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2009, 07:25:56 AM »

Then post them so I can steal your ideas.
It's not theft if you call it an homage or attribute it properly.
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