Oh, so you are one of those "purists" who need to have the "actual" book?
I would like you to not get personal here, I do not judge your preference and I expect the same from you.
What's my preference? I own many books in both formats, hundreds printed and a few more as PDFs/OEFs. I wasn't judging you, I was just wondering as to why you read like you have little inclination to electronic formats. My tone wasn't judgemental, but genuinely curious if blunt. Please accept my apologies for the confussion.
Maybe for WHFRP books, there's no collector controlled thing for oWoD books. And I have almost 10 years of experience buying them.
So? I've now got 19 years of "oWoD experience", but it serves us not in this thread. You only used them to illustrate a point and the topic does not revolve around them but WHFRP. Mind you, your answer indeed could allow me to assume you talk out of prejudice/personal past (and seemingly bad) experience.
I would like to point out that this statement insults many honest booksellers who do not rip people off. I know a few RPG traders who have honest prices and are very up-front with the buyer.
No, it does not, you seem to be trying to misconstrue it to do so. That's why I wrote "caveat emptor" (buyer beware). Not all of the sellers will try to gut buyers, but those you mention about commanding hefty prices do, and those were the ones I was referring to.
Maybe you've had some bad experiences but please refrain from stating that it's the definite truth.
Oh, so I'm stating something as if it was the ONLY truth? C'mon. Grow a thicker skin, really. Refrain from trying to paint people with different views as one with agendas, narrow views, past bad experiences, whatever, why don't you? I was just commenting on the topic, the same as you. Seems to me that you are putting things in"good" and "bad" boxes when there's no need or practical use for it.
Among other things, I'm a bibliophile with quite a big collection (of which RPG games are but a small fraction) and I know certain thing about book pricing that go beyond the mere "demand" factor. I'm sorry to inform you not one book in our hobby, no matter how rare needs to cost over a hundred bucks.
I never had bad experiences beacuse I don't fall for these all too common but not completely founded arguments about the perceived price, demand and print runs of "mere" rpgs.
Rain can still ruin your reading pleasure, mind.
Well laptops aren't so water-friendly either.
That's what I meant! See how you are misrepresenting my statements by view literal and partial to just YOUR interpretation of what I wrote? Do you really need emoticons to detect sarcasm? If so, I will use them more often. Just so we avoid percieved offenses/narrow-mindedness.
Again it's a case of GW-stuff vs. the rest of the world.
No, it really wasn't, I mentioned them because they were pertinent/related to this thread and a mere examples of one of MANY items/goods that are popular, have demand and thus, attract many types of traders.
Besides there are many venues like Noble Knight or Dragon's Trove which sell books at a fair price.
Noble Knight has absurd shipping charges for "overseas" customers, and I once, years ago, I tried with Dragon Trove but decided not to because of their outrageous S&H fees before the mailing got so expensive, but I'll grant you that they indeed have reasonable prices for their wares, and great opportunities/handycaps for their U.S. customers.
And Amazon has various prices, recently I've bought a rare book for the standard price even though it was almost impossible to get otherwise.
That's what I am talking about. Would you say this seller was a fool because there was no mark-up on his offering even though it was "rare"? By the way, I assume by that you mean "scarce" for a rare book has only a few tens of copies in existance, but anyway... If we are still talking about rpg related materials, my guess is you got a book of which several thousand copies were made even when the distribution might have not been good enough or the demand was big enough to make it difficult to obtain.
It's a good thing you got it a the standrad price and can see there are options out there which are not ebay or "rare book traders" who tend to inflate prices without sense, reason or sane justification.
Sure, finding such "deals" (or "more real" prices) isn't easy, but it's all part of the hunt if you MUST own a printed copy of a book. Which, when it deals with RPG books, very few enter that category if you only want them for the information to use in your games and can have OEFs. Heck, now that we can see the books first and decide they are so innovative (Spycraft), so useful (FantasyCraft), so fun (Mustants&Materminds) or just are objects of sheer beauty (Mouseguard), or not... it just makes it easier for all of us to buy them in print later, keep them at home of our "Favourites" shelf or get them all dogeared with use. Or use our portables in our gaming session while still having the book in question in two versions.
All I meant to say is: please don't get fooled by the "rarity" of certain rpg books and help drive the speculator-market. You got options and printed book don't "beat" electronic ones. It's maybe that you just prefer them, that's all.
Then again, if you are a collector or a "completist" you should be prepared to hunt hard or be willing to get your wallet chomped.