I Ought To Be Ashamed....

[TheAuldGrump]

Ah, Shadowrun - interesting setting, terrible rules.

The Auld Grump

[Number Three]

Also, despite having tried it and deciding it sucked, I'm in a weekly 4th Ed D&D game again.
::embarassed::

Meh.  I'm currently in one with another on the horizon, and I don't see what all the fuss is about.  It's no where near as flexible has d20, and good luck trying to run it without a battlemat, but it's also nice to be bloody competent at 1st level.  Sure I can see it's similarities to an RPG bunny trail, but I don't see anyone else in the industry trying to make new gamers instead of placating the old ones.*

I also get the odd feeling of 3E design goals (always d20 + bonus, any race + any class, specializing at higher levels with prestige classes, simplified saves) applied to second ed AD&D (one class for life or making you work for multiclassing, a dearth of social mechanics compared to every other ruleset on the planet, works best in dungeons.)  At least I haven't come up with a concept that the rules refuse to support, like 3.x (CoDzilla > Mages > Heavy Armored fighters > spectators to the previous awesome) or frakkin' D20 Modern (rules so railroading that character building often has me imitating this NSFW video.)

In all fairness, I'm also blessed with GMs whose style is independent of rulesets and are more than happy to have whole sessions of pure RP without touching the dice.

Still rather be playing Spycraft, but when in Rome, etc.


*Closest I've seen really come to an intro RPG is Faery's Tale.  I'm embarrassed that it's not on my site.  I'll have to remember to correct that this weekend.

[Number Three]

Ah, Shadowrun - interesting setting, terrible rules.

Never has one world convinced so many people to try to shoehorn a great setting into some other, better ruleset.    Also probably the #1 reason anyone picked up D20 Modern.

[Agent 333]

The SR 4 rules aren't complete bollocks, but there are... issues. Balancing combat, for one, is really hard. The threats are either way to easy or way too hard, with little room in between. All the sample villains are either dragons or cannon fodder. It doesn't matter that Vampires can regenerate, frex, when the team can reliably take one down to -20 or so in a single turn. But dragons, even without breaking out the Force 10 Manaball of Death, can still easily TPK a party in a couple of initiative passes. Also, the BP system is good in theory, drek in practice. Every game, every system I've ever played with any "Build your own character using a handful of points" chargen system always ends up with the same flawed outcome. Good players can make great characters, ok players make characters that are steaming piles of drek. (Mutants and Masterminds, for example is great in theory as you can build both, for example, Cyclops and Iron Man as PL 10 characters. Which is good for the system, bad for the player playing Cyclops.)
Ah, well, but I digress. If only we coulda played SC instead of SR...

[TheAuldGrump]

Ah, Shadowrun - interesting setting, terrible rules.

Never has one world convinced so many people to try to shoehorn a great setting into some other, better ruleset.    Also probably the #1 reason anyone picked up D20 Modern.

Ummm 

The Auld Grump, yep.

[Krensky]

Last time I ran Shadowrun, I used CP2020 with some fuzion bits grafted on.

[glimmerrat]

I'm a huge SR fan. The 3rd ed rules worked just fine for our group, and then when we moved on to 4th ed, those rules worked just fine too. I really don't see the issue - if everyone is on the same page then it isn't clunky or complicated at all. For heaven's sake, Spycraft is more complicated than SR4!

[MilitiaJim]

I might make an exception for haggis.

I think of haggis like I think of Kraft "Mac & Cheese":  Edible but not very good plain, pretty good with mustard.  Though I think the mustard helps the haggis so much more than it helps the mac.

[glimmerrat]

I guess i'm not really one to talk - i used to like eating black pudding with my sunday breakfast.


That's congealed pig's blood made into something that looks like a black sausage, by the way. 

*EDIT* And pork scratchings. Mmmm tasty, especially when you get one that still has hairs on it...

[TheAuldGrump]

Heh, when I was a kid (about eight or nine, I think) I used to like lamb's tongue sandwiches. To be precise, I liked lining three tongues up on the bread so they all faced the same way, then when somebody asked me what I was having I would open the sandwich up so they were pointing toward the victim and say 'Blah!'  So help me, I still think that is funny.

I also like both black pudding and blutwurst.

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[Crafty_Pat]

My mom grew up in the First Great Depression (she was born in 1930). She used to tell stories about picking up bits of tar that dripped off roofs and cooled on the cement. Apparently they were poor folks' hard candy.

[Wolverine]

I might make an exception for haggis.

I would definately recommend haggis, especially if it is made properly. Even better if it involves the full haggis ceremony - including whiskey. I've had it a few times at the local Highland Games and it is quite tasty.

I once had crocodile meat (on a pizza). I'm not sure if it was how it was cooked, but it tasted a bit like lamb.

[MilitiaJim]

I once had crocodile meat (on a pizza). I'm not sure if it was how it was cooked, but it tasted a bit like lamb.

I had alligator nuggets one night in New Orleans.  If the alligator hadn't come first i would have said it tastes like chicken.

[glimmerrat]

I had an ostrich steak.

[TheAuldGrump]

I never had ostrich, but I had (domestic) emu once. If memory serves it tasted less like chicken than the rattlesnake did. (Actually, it didn't taste much like chicken at all, more like a cross between pork, beef, and turkey. Sorta like... I dunno, emu?) I would be more than willing to try it again. I may have to check the Public Marketplace to see if the shop that used to have it has moved there once the Public Market closed. (The mismanagement of the Portland Public Market still pisses me off.)

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