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« on: January 20, 2009, 06:55:59 PM »

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The pistol-caliber carbine occupies an awkward tactical niche. Not as compact as a pistol, not as powerful as a rifle, and lacking a submachine gun's automatic fire... what's to recommend it? How about virtually no recoil, man-killing accuracy out to 200 meters, the same ammo and magazines as your sidearm, and civilian-legal purchase around the world – all in a lightweight polymer package you can hide in a tennis racket bag? Interested now? Yeah, we thought so...

Shooter's Guide: Pistol-Caliber Carbines is 93 Games Studio's first weapon supplement for the Twilight: 2013 roleplaying game. It examines the advantages and disadvantages of the "PCC" and provides detailed Reflex System information for 11 families of carbines and 7 companion handguns. Weapons detailed in this document include the Beretta Cx4/Px4 Storm, the Kel-Tec SUB-2000, the classic M1 carbine, and more. This dual-statted product also provides weapon traits and new qualities and feats for Spycraft 2.0. Whether you're walking point through the ruins of Chicago or running a low-profile covert op on Embassy Row in Belgrade, something here is sure to be a useful addition to your armory.



Guys, I'm excited about this.  Those of you who've been around for a while may remember my work on the old silver, black, and blue books.  I've been out of the Spycraft arena for a while, but it's good to be back.  This is the first of what will be an ongoing line of dual-statted gear supplements for SC2 and Reflex, and I'm looking forward to your feedback on Shooter's Guide I.  I think we have a solid little supplement here, and writing it was almost as much fun as shooting the subject guns is.   Cool

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 07:42:41 PM »

I just bought this an hour ago, I've only flipped through it for a minute but I couldn't understand why hadn't heard of it before. Glad to know I'm on the cutting edge and not slipping.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 08:47:13 PM »

Our thanks to 93 Games Studio for another superb third-party offering!

Oh, and here's a link to the product page!
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 09:04:39 PM »

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D'oh.  I linked the cover art and forgot to put anything in the actual text.  Thanks, Pat!

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 11:06:39 PM »

Those of you who've been around for a while may remember my work on the old silver, black, and blue books.  I've been out of the Spycraft arena for a while, but it's good to be back.

I do remember, and it's good to see you back in the Spycraft saddle.

The timing of this product is amusing to me. Yesterday I decided to use my (disturbingly large) 2008 tax return to purchase a carbine. I should be able to use the Shooter's Guide as a starting point for my research. Tongue

As an aside, I added the information in this product to the Master Index, and sent the update to Pat.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 07:34:47 AM »

The timing of this product is amusing to me. Yesterday I decided to use my (disturbingly large) 2008 tax return to purchase a carbine. I should be able to use the Shooter's Guide as a starting point for my research. Tongue

If you can stand to wait a few months for the paperwork to clear, it's hard to go wrong with a CMP M1.  If you want to go for the space pirate look, the only faults I can find with the Beretta Cx4 are lousy iron sights (which you can fix with a red dot) and a heavy trigger.  Ammo and magazine availability are currently pretty good for both, though high-cap anything has gone up in price since the election.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 04:43:11 PM »

The timing of this product is amusing to me. Yesterday I decided to use my (disturbingly large) 2008 tax return to purchase a carbine. I should be able to use the Shooter's Guide as a starting point for my research. Tongue

If you can stand to wait a few months for the paperwork to clear, it's hard to go wrong with a CMP M1.  If you want to go for the space pirate look, the only faults I can find with the Beretta Cx4 are lousy iron sights (which you can fix with a red dot) and a heavy trigger.  Ammo and magazine availability are currently pretty good for both, though high-cap anything has gone up in price since the election.

I'm familiar with CMP, and meet the eligibility requirements for ordering. I've been lusting after an M1 Carbine for some time. Plus, that'd be my first entry in my C&R book.

On the other hand... Lord, another ammo type? I was kinda hoping for a carbine that matched one of my existing pistol rounds (or, in a perfect world, magazines).

Back on the first hand... mmmm, tasty history. Smiley

I suspect I'll end up going the CMP route while they still have stock and getting around to a pistol caliber carbine at some later time, but I've got to mull it over a bit first.

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 05:08:54 PM »

I just bought this an hour ago, I've only flipped through it for a minute but I couldn't understand why hadn't heard of it before. Glad to know I'm on the cutting edge and not slipping.

We wouldn't mind if you left a review at DTRPG. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 06:24:08 AM »

any chance there will be that kind of product for (exotic) melee or hurled weapons for Spycraft or mastercraft?
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2009, 12:15:28 PM »

Not really my area of expertise, and I'm not sure how strong the market would be for it in the Twilight: 2013 fan base.  I think Scott is stronger at that sort of thing than anyone on our team (hint, hint).

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 12:29:21 PM »

As a stand-alone product it's unlikely. We eyed doing a crossbows supliment once, long ago, but that didn't really have legs upon consideration. The basic dynamics of stab/beat somone to death don't really require a lot of variety at the weapon statistics level - individuality with those weapons tend to come more from the techniques of the operator, and thus as tricks or feats (some of which might be very specific about the weapon required...). There is some posibility that the Fantasy Craft settings will expand on the basic library of weapon stats as appropriate to that sort of setting (Godspawn favoring things like "anvil-sized chunk of metal on a stick" Grin). I'm sure the variety of sharp bits in the core book will come as a pleasant surprise for many.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 12:38:19 PM »

I'm sure the variety of sharp bits in the core book will come as a pleasant surprise for many.

i expected no less from crafty games!! Cheesy i hope FC will come soon
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2009, 01:36:07 PM »

I'll just wait for the Crafty bunch to figure out what to do with the title "Riddle of Steel" I don't think you can go wrong with it.  Or perhaps a Garage supplement full of vehicle upgrades etc.  I definitely had been jonesing for info on the Cx4 (my favorite gun aside from the minigun).  Thanks for making it as an option finally.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 07:07:21 PM »

On the other hand... Lord, another ammo type? I was kinda hoping for a carbine that matched one of my existing pistol rounds (or, in a perfect world, magazines).

Get thee to a reloading bench.  Smiley

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I suspect I'll end up going the CMP route while they still have stock and getting around to a pistol caliber carbine at some later time, but I've got to mull it over a bit first.

I really don't think you can go wrong with the M1 carbine for any reasonable defensive application a civilian should encounter.  It's great fun for plinking too, and, as you say, the history factor is significant.  I'd love to get my hands on a Rock-Ola, but not at the prices they're commanding on the collector market these days.

As a stand-alone product it's unlikely. We eyed doing a crossbows supliment once, long ago, but that didn't really have legs upon consideration. The basic dynamics of stab/beat somone to death don't really require a lot of variety at the weapon statistics level - individuality with those weapons tend to come more from the techniques of the operator, and thus as tricks or feats (some of which might be very specific about the weapon required...).

Pretty much my feeling as well, based on nothing more than a critical look at melee weapons as variations on the simple machines of wedge and lever.  A lot of melee weapon selection in RPGs seems to be based on aesthetics of either the weapon itself or the associated style.

I'll just wait for the Crafty bunch to figure out what to do with the title "Riddle of Steel" I don't think you can go wrong with it.  Or perhaps a Garage supplement full of vehicle upgrades etc.  I definitely had been jonesing for info on the Cx4 (my favorite gun aside from the minigun).  Thanks for making it as an option finally.

Happy to provide.   Cool  I rather dig on the little critter, despite the aforementioned minor ergonomic issues.

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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2009, 07:23:32 PM »

On the other hand... Lord, another ammo type? I was kinda hoping for a carbine that matched one of my existing pistol rounds (or, in a perfect world, magazines).

Get thee to a reloading bench.  Smiley

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