Spoilerific Discussions (From books 1 & 2.)

[MilitiaJim]

Better to just accept the Steel Ministry at their word and assume that only Mistborn can burn Atium.

I see no reason to do that.   

I think a Mistling could burn duraluminum, but that it would have no effect.  How many people are Mistlings have no idea?

[Agent 333]

Way to quote me out of context  . We're both agreeing that there can be Mistings that only burn higher metals. The quote is just an explanation why nobody in world knows it.

[Krensky]

Also, Krensky, in response to that, Atium is supposed to be insanely rare and valuable. I can't imagine nobles testing all their kids to see if they can burn atium, even a shaving of which would cost a butload. Plus, you'd have to test them regularly in case they hadn't Snapped the first time you tested them... it'd get really expensive real quick. Better to just accept the Steel Ministry at their word and assume that only Mistborn can burn Atium.

Just like they listen to it about everything else? Oh.. wait... Zane.

If the kid can't burn it, you make him puke it back up like Vin does a time or two.

If Atium Mistlings existed, the Nobility would know.

[MilitiaJim]

If Atium Mistlings existed, the Nobility would know.

I don't think it occurred to them to check, and if the Steel Ministry said that Mistlings can't burn Atium, I am sure that something nasty happened to people who checked on the possibility of an Atium burning Mistling.

[MilitiaJim]

Art goodness of Vin

[Agent 333]

Art goodness of Vin

Ooh, nifty. Don' t think it needs to be in a spoiler thread though....

[MilitiaJim]

It could be argued that telling of Vin whuppin' up some Koloss would qualify as a spoiler.  ::shrug::

[agent oni]

I read the Mistborn Trilogy and recently, Warbreaker.

The author has a habit of leaving questions unresolved.

In Mistborn, he leaves us hanging with the mystery of the last 2 metals and their effects.  Also, whileall the Allomancy effects are detailed for 14 of the metals, he leaves question marks for some of the metal effects on the other 2 magic systems.

In Warbreaker, since it is just one book, he doesn't go into much detail about Biochroma which is another very interesting magical system.

[Doublebond]

I read the Mistborn Trilogy and recently, Warbreaker.

The author has a habit of leaving questions unresolved.

In Mistborn, he leaves us hanging with the mystery of the last 2 metals and their effects.  Also, while all the Allomancy effects are detailed for 14 of the metals, he leaves question marks for some of the metal effects on the other 2 magic systems.

In Warbreaker, since it is just one book, he doesn't go into much detail about Biochroma which is another very interesting magical system.

He did the same with Elantris.

As I understand it, however, he's planning to write sequels for all three series (Elantris in particular leaves too many unresolved plotlines to not have a sequel). He's also apparently indicated that, outside of tWoT, all of the books he's written thus far exist within the same multiverse, so he's probably going to write the work(s) connecting them eventually.

Regardless, as it stands he apparently intends to eventually write new material for all of the series he's done thus far; we'll see it eventually, considering he does a book a year and his current intended schedule consists of writing two Stormlight Archive books every two years, and some other book unrelated to that series every third.

Either way, he's apparently released the information on the other allometic metals, seeing as how Wikipedia had to get them from somewhere.

[Agent 333]

There's a poster that describes the allomantic effects of the other metals, but something like half the metals Feruchemical and Hemalurgic powers are unsubscribed. The way I heard it, he wanted to write a Stormlight book every other year, with a book in one of his other worlds on the off years. After Wheel of Time wraps up, of course.

[Mister Andersen]

So, I've just finished WoA. Yeah, keeping up with the action me, so I imagine a whole bunch of this conjecture has already been addressed in #3

Thoughts so far:

Picked that the Lord Ruler was going to be a ferruchemist the moment the narrative mentioned him wearing rings, and that OreSur was going to be the one the Kandra replaced. The solution to the koloss problem also became evident with the way Breeze's soothing was as useless on them as it was on kandras before Vin boosted it.

Given the way things have been set up, I very much suspect that at some point in HoA that Vin will puppetmaster at least one inquisitor, and those spikes -- which since they define 2 out of three of the Ruler's creations logically have to factor into the Kandra as well -- are the key to this.

In turn, the spikes seem to have some connection to the Deepness, based on Zane's God and it's "protectiveness" of Vin logically having to be coming from the spike in his chest and Marsh's external compunction to prevent Sazed from stopping her releasing the Deepness.

I don't think El snapped. Allomancy has for 2 books now been linked to the mists -- and thus the mist spirit opposing the Deepness -- through narrative description. The amount of smashed pottery next to the intact disc seems fairly solid evidence to support the claim that the Lord Ruler did indeed grant Mistborness to his originally mundane followers. Plus, M:tFE established that the nobility effectively have a rite of passage where their children are beaten almost to death in order to make them snap. Elend would have gone through that, the same as everyone else.

Naming the 12th metal as electrum in the appendix before it's discovered in the narrative just narks me, since at this point the 13th and 14th metals are known but not included either on the allomantic compass or described in the appendix.

I'm also kinda disappointed that Elend's become mistborn. While yes it stops Vin from being more or less a lonely god, I liked how they worked as a couple despite the vast difference in powerlevel between them.

[Agent 333]

Normally I'd berate you for thread necromancy, but in this case it was interesting to see some of my predictions that were published before HoA.

WARNING HERO OF AGES SPOILERS!

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Specifically, the existence Atium mistings were not only confirmed, but a major plot point. In your face, Krensky!

EDIT: Warning added to ward off the few people who would be reading this thread but haven't yet read Hero of Ages.

[Mister Andersen]

Mind marking that as a HoA spoiler for other late comers?

Other thoughts: Atium is clearly unnatural: metal just doesn't form completely pure in the middle of geodes like that, and the catstrophic effect of even internal sensory allomancy on it has to be important. It has to be connected to the mists or the Deepness in some fashion

[Agent 333]

Mind marking that as a HoA spoiler for other late comers?

Other thoughts: Atium is clearly unnatural: metal just doesn't form completely pure in the middle of geodes like that, and the catstrophic effect of even internal sensory allomancy on it has to be important. It has to be connected to the mists or the Deepness in some fashion

I thought it was pretty obvious from context that it was a HoA spoiler. Hence the spoiler tags in a thread otherwise devoid of them   .