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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2008, 07:42:06 PM »

Unfair to monkeys!  We need more monkeys!

Frankly I'm shocked this is even an argument.  It's so ludicrous to try and produce some list of "good monkey movies" versus "bad monkey movies", I'm having a hard time fathoming any justification for the time involved.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2008, 09:43:38 PM »

Also, you may want to keep it down, you might upset the monkeys on this site (ThunderMonkey and TornadoApe).

I'm a monkey... he's an ape... Apes have no class.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 02:52:05 AM »

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I have a hard time reconciling these two arguments.  For Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, the presence of the monkey hardly drives the movie down lower than without the monkey.  It could even be argued it elevates the movie to poo jokes.  Without the monkey it is all lewd genital, sex and fart jokes.

I guess what I am trying to say, I think the blame is being placed unfairly on the monkey.



Indeed you win that arguement. But I don't really think it invalidates my arguement that some movies are so hideous that even adding a monkey doesn't hurt them.
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Also, you may want to keep it down, you might upset the monkeys on this site (ThunderMonkey and TornadoApe).

On the whole I like monkeys. (thundermonkey and tornadoape included) I actually worked on a board game involving monkeys. I collect stuffed monkeys (orignally as promotional items for the above). I also like children. (in small doses) But neither of them belong in movies. I don't know why that is, but it seems a nealy universal constant.

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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 02:56:16 AM »

Unfair to monkeys!  We need more monkeys!

Frankly I'm shocked this is even an argument.  It's so ludicrous to try and produce some list of "good monkey movies" versus "bad monkey movies", I'm having a hard time fathoming any justification for the time involved.   Roll Eyes

It's an arguement? I suppose it is at some level.

Justification for time involved is rather complex.

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I work 9-10 hours a day sitting behind a desk at a computer.  I spend two of those hours walking rounds. 1 of those hours dealing with people. The other 6-7 I spend staring blankly at the screen. I can't do anything involved, because I have to keep an eye open and be willing to stop at any time. Therefore I'm easily bored, and pretty much flounder for something to spend my time on that's not too distracting but distracting enough to keep me from going insane.

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I thought it was funny. Oddly, I think I can justify 80% of my life's actions with this defense. Not so oddly, most people think this makes me insane, which makes the first arguement slightly moot.

Justificaiton #3: I stand by my arguement that the list of Good monkey movies is painfully short, and usually involves either fantastical monkeys (oz), dying monkeys, or primates that aren't actually monkeys (Gorillas, Apes, etc...). Therefore it won't take much time if anyone can produce one at all.
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2008, 04:30:50 AM »

BTW, another movie that was better with monkeys (though only marginally, and mainly because the film was kinda lackluster otherwise): Indy IV.

Just sayin'. Wink
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2008, 11:09:33 AM »

BTW, another movie that was better with monkeys (though only marginally, and mainly because the film was kinda lackluster otherwise): Indy IV.

Just sayin'. Wink

You really think so? I thought the monkeys greatly detracted from that scene.
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2008, 06:12:42 PM »

You really think so? I thought the monkeys greatly detracted from that scene.

I agree that using them as a proof of concept for Shia's return to the chase was a little heavy-handed, but the bit with them swarming the jeep was awesome.
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2008, 08:57:07 AM »

You really think so? I thought the monkeys greatly detracted from that scene.

I agree that using them as a proof of concept for Shia's return to the chase was a little heavy-handed, but the bit with them swarming the jeep was awesome.

Wow... I'm the odd man... <ahem> monkey out. I thought the sequence was pretty sharp. Pure pulpness and a great tip of the hat to Tarzan (who really is just another pulp hero).
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2008, 08:11:26 PM »

I just found this on Agony Booth and thought it vaguely appropriate.
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Strangely, the close-up of Coburn through the windshield shows him with a picture of a monkey on his hat. This was the culmination of a subplot that was shot but not edited into the final cut. Initially, there was supposed to be a pet monkey [!!] named Little Eddie that helped Hawk and was killed by Kaplan. Hawk was supposed to say something like "this is for Little Eddie", paste the picture to Kaplan's hat, and throw him off the roof, but they cut it out because it didn't work with the flow of the film. Think about that, folks. Think about that, and tremble.

A film that flopped in which monkeys didn't work.

I am stunned, frankly. Stunned.
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