The best speech I've ever heard.

[Forcegypsy]

A little more On Topic:

Interesting to see someone actually listening to one of Wright's speeches, than the edited stuff they see on YouTube (sadly a phenomenon we see in the press more and more nowadays):

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/

May help understand the context around the comments.

How interested do you think the media will be in changing their narrative? Americans have been ill-served by their tradional media for some time now. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

[Krensky]

I agree with haughtyelf on that matter. I've taken my oath, and though it's for a different country the principle is the same.

That is my opinion, though I think most that have served their country will hold that opinion.

Add a Judge's oath to that one, and you got some serious weight on Your Eternal Soul(tm)...

Unfortunately, that line, not exact but similar,  is in many office oaths for politicians at the US federal level.  I wonder if we could get that them on that, a breach of oath.

If I remember correctly, it's in every Oath of Office and Oath of Service in the United States and is derived from the Constitutionally mandated Presidential Oath. Personally, I'd consider the current willful disregard and at times open scorn for the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth amendments violations of it.

[Nepenthe]

Quote of the Day
The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
P. J. O'Rourke

[Crafty_Pat]

Could a mod snip the posts by Krensky and me concerning the principle of double effect and put them in a separate thread. They are a tangent here, but I do want to continue that discussion.

Go ahead and start up a new thread. This one could potentially get confusing if we start slicing it up.

[Desertpuma]

I am going to have to watch the speech.