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« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2007, 07:43:00 PM »

Thanks! Re-read the manufacturer's material and BFOG 1.

Added the MOD (10 min) and SUR.

Only FN SCAR has a removable barrel.

Still thinking if I should also give the ACC quality even though it has a folding stock.
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« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2007, 08:34:31 PM »

Well, MOD requires multiple stat lines.  It, in this case, represents a rifle that designed to fulfill multiple roles by swapping barrels, stocks, and trigger groups, or fore grips and that it is designed to allow someone other then a gunsmith or armorer to do it quickly and easily with few or no tools not already found in the soldier's equipment.  Generally this means a multi-tool, cleaning kit, and things built into the rifle itself.  Since the manufacturer touts a tool less quick change system, it should have one line for each barrel length.

Where are yoiu getting SUR from? A three point sling is represented by a tactical sling and the rubber butt pad is a recoil pad. I would tend to increase the recoil by one and use UPG (recoil pad) just to prevent someone from adding it to get another decrease in recoil from the same system.

I wouldn't add ACC, the only assault rifle in the book with that quality is a specially made marksman/sniper version of the H&K G3. You might also consider UPG (ergonomic stock) because of the adjustable pad, but that seems completely excessive to me.
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« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2007, 06:31:35 AM »

SUR comes from the textured grip and textured magazine well, the XM-8 has the same quality.

UPG (recoil pad) is a good call, I'll do it. UPG (ergonomic stock) was the first thing I considered, but it can't be added to a weapon with a folding/collapsing stock. Then again, I could just ignore that part  Wink.
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« Reply #78 on: December 09, 2007, 11:59:49 PM »

Anyone see this yet?

.557 T-Rex

Here is someone who seems to be able to handle the recoil

Then we have the AA12 (A fully automatic 12 gauge shotgun) - 2007

Full auto
Low recoil
choice of 20 or 30 round drums

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« Reply #79 on: December 10, 2007, 12:56:03 AM »

Well, the AA-12 is an old design.  It's partly the basis of the USAS-12, if I remember correct.  But it's going to be in Bag Full of Guns: This is My Gun. 
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« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2007, 08:01:03 PM »

The old model was maybe the basis for the USAS but the new one is a bit different.


AA-12
Caliber III
12 ga. Shot   5d4   1-2/20   8M5 or 20D2   12   30 ft.   S/2h   IMP, NFM (S/B/F), TKD   10 lbs.   25/+1   2006
12 ga. Slug   2d12   1-2/20   8M5 or 20D2   12   30 ft.   S/2h   IMP, NFM (S/B/F), TKD   10 lbs.   25/+1   2006

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« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2007, 08:44:52 PM »

That bad boy is already statted - now if I had the time to actually get to finishing that product off...  Embarrassed
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« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2007, 08:50:51 PM »

Will it be appearing with the FRAG-12 HE, HEAT, and fragmentation shells?  Or maybe even the XREP shells? Smiley
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« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2007, 08:58:52 PM »

That bad boy is already statted - now if I had the time to actually get to finishing that product off...  Embarrassed
Until it's out my version should do fine.

And by the way, how far off am I with mine?
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« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2007, 01:56:11 AM »

Will it be appearing with the FRAG-12 HE, HEAT, and fragmentation shells?  Or maybe even the XREP shells? Smiley

I'm doing Frag-12 HE and HEAP, as they are the only thing I can find ANY information on.

Aragathor - you've definately got the basics, though I would up the caliber at least 1 step due to the automatic and burst fire capacities. It's missing a few qualities I would add to this weapon...at least, based on the marketing hype and some field tests I've seen Smiley
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« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2007, 02:14:02 AM »

XREP is a ranged taser round. It's now in pilot phase.

http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/XREP.aspx
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« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2007, 02:19:47 AM »

I'm doing Frag-12 HE and HEAP, as they are the only thing I can find ANY information on.

That's because that's all their seems to be... The article I looked at listed HE, Fragmentation and HEAT, when I think they meant HE Frag and HEAP.
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« Reply #87 on: December 19, 2007, 12:30:49 PM »

Has the SIG SSG-550 been statted yet?

Also, it's a good thing for the enemy if you consider their guns "toylike" or "ugly", because part of your mind will always underestimate it... Wink I agree with the other guy said, a gun is a gun - as long as it shoots straight, that's all what's needed.
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« Reply #88 on: December 19, 2007, 05:43:11 PM »

Has the SIG SSG-550 been statted yet?

Try this:

Swiss Arms AG SG-550
Assault Rifle Pick - Caliber III
5.56x45mm NATO   4d4   1–3/20   20M8   12   125 ft.   S/2h   CLS, DEP, UPG(Bayonet lug, Bipod)   7 lbs.   1   23/+1   1986   R$850

Now, properly it fires 5.6x45mm Gw Pat 90, but it can use 5.56x45mm NATO and the specs on the cartridges are roughly the same, although it seems that the Swiss maintain tighter standards and quality control. I wasn't sure what to do about the rifle grenade ability, that should probably be handled by the grenade, not the rifle since modern rifle grenades don't use adapters.
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« Reply #89 on: December 19, 2007, 06:56:40 PM »

Let's modify that a bit:
Drop CLS and UPG (Bayonet lug). It has a fully adjustable stock and grips. Barrel has nothing on it.
And it's semi-auto only. Not intended for field use by soldiers, but as a precision tool.
Instead give it UPG (Custom grip, Ergonomic stock, Recoil pad).

So it'll end up like this:
Swiss Arms AG SG-550
Semi-Automatic Rifle Pick - Caliber III (No Add-Ons)
5.56x45mm NATO   4d4   1-3/20   20M8   12   125 ft.   S/2h   DEP, UPG(Bipod, Custom grip, Ergonomic stock, Recoil pad)   11.9 lbs.   1   23/+1   1986   R$1,250

The shooter receives +2 with Aimed shots, increases the Initiative by 2 the first time he readies the weapon in combat, reduces the recoil by 4. And anyone else receives -2 gear penalty to use the weapon. May Brace as a free action when prone or can otherwise use the bipod on a flat surface.

Comes with no sights, so one must purchase some for the weapon.
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