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« on: June 26, 2007, 12:38:43 PM »

A while ago I started to think about converting a few RL guns into SC. The main problem was the fact that CG didn't publish conversion rules, nevertheless I started to work.
The first weapons I converted were guns used by a US Airborne Infantry company. Since almost all are in the book I only needed to convert 3:

M1 Para Carbine   Semi-auto Rifle                           
7.62x33 mm   3d4   1/20   15M4   12   100ft.   S/2h   CLS   5.2 lb   17/+0   1942

M3 Grease Gun   Heavy SMG                           
.45 ACP   1d12   1-4/19-20   30M4   3   35ft.   T/2h   RUG, UNR   8.16 lb   20/+1   1942

Browning M1919   GPMG                           
.30-06   2D10 + 1   1-3/19-20   100B1   7   175ft.   S/2h   UPG (Tripod), IMP, SLA   31 lb   22/+1   1919
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 01:33:00 PM »

Welrod Gun

Welrod is a WWII British bolt-action, magazine fed, silenced pistol, used for removing sentries, and assassinations. It was primarily used by the British SOE, but was also used by the American OSS. After the war the Welrod was used to in places like Korea, Vietnam, the Falklands, Iraq and even (as the rumor goes) in Northern Ireland.

The weapon is little more than a steel tube containing the barrel, silencer, a bolt, and attached to this a very short grip (the rest of the grip is removable and is the magazine). It is accurate up to 30 meters in daylight or 20 meters on a fairly light night, but is most effective when fired in contact with the target.

It was made in two variants Mk I (9mm P) and Mk II (.32 ACP). The Mk I could have the front part of the suppressor removed to make it easier to conceal the gun (at the expense of noise reduction) and a trigger guard. The Mk II’s trigger, best described as a bent nail, is not protected by a trigger-guard, meaning that it cannot simply be tucked into the belt without risking accidental discharge.

Service Pistol Picks - Caliber III

Welrod Mk I 1d10+1 1-2/19-20 5M5 13 10 ft. D/1h TBR, MAC (1), QKY, UPG (silencer) 2.4 lb 20/+1 1943 R$1,000

Welrod Mk II 1d6+1 1-2/19-20 5M5 11 10 ft. D/1h INS, MAC (1), QKY 2.4 lb. 20/+1 1943 R$1,000

Note: the weapons have NO upgrade locations (rail or underbarrel). The weapons are also Unmarked (being that they are essentially hand-built by the technical section of the SOE).
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 02:17:18 PM »

7.62 RK 62

The 7.62 RK 62 is the standard weapon of the Finnish Defense Forces. It is based on the Russian AK-47, but differs from it by being of higher quality and more accurate (frequently shooting less than 1 MOA) and having new sights (which can be flipped open for night use with Tritium inserts), different flash suppressor, different stock and replacing the wooden parts with plastic. The Israeli Galil is derived from the RK 62. The RK 62 comes with a patrol sling and is fitted with a bayonet lug.

Assault Rifle Pick - Caliber III

7.62x39 3d6 1/19-20 30M5 11 125 ft. S/2h DEP, RGD 9.5 lbs 22/+1 1962 R$1,000



EDIT: added patrol sling and bayonet lug
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 05:37:00 PM »

Time for the russian and german guns used at Stalingrad:

Walther Gewehr 43   Semi-auto Rifle                           
8mm Mauser   2d10+1   1/19-20   10M5   22   200ft   S/2h   DEP, ACC   9.7 lb   17/+0   1943

Tokarev SVT-40   Semi-auto Rifle                           
7.62x54mm Russian   2d10+1   1/19-20   10M5   21   200ft.   S/2h   DEP, RUG   8.5 lb   17/+0   1940

Tokarev TT-33   Service Pistol                           
7.62 x 25 mm TT   2d6   1-2/20   8M7   17   20ft.   D/1h   DEP, RUG   1.8 lbs.   16/+0   1930

Next post: The famous PPSh-41
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2007, 09:59:36 PM »

PPSh-41   Heavy Submachinegun                           
7.62 x 25 mm TT   2d6   1-3/20   35M4 or 71D2   11   30 ft.   S/2h   DEP, RUG, IMP   8 lbs.   16/+0   1941

Any wishes for the next WWII Gun?
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 01:54:22 AM »

mp44 would be nice.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 02:54:15 AM »

Already in the book.

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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 03:19:01 AM »

i had just looked through trying to find it must've missed it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2007, 05:02:33 AM »

Suomi M-31 Submachinegun
Heavy Submachinegun Pick - Caliber II

Widely regarded as the best submachinegun of the WWII. It's features were copied by the Russians in the PPSh-41.

9mm P   1d10+1   1-3/20   20M6 or 71D2   10   30 ft.   S/2h   DEP, RUG   9 lbs.   16/+0   1931

EDIT: range and ammo
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2007, 05:23:45 AM »

Hm, hmm and hmm.
Magazine choices - the M-31 used 20, 50 and 70 rounds magazines. 36 rds. magazines used later were Carl Gustaf M45 magazines and not genuine M-31 mags.
Range - it was almost the same as the range of the PPSh-41.
 
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 05:32:56 AM »

Range - M-31 has a bit longer barrel, effective range is around 200 meters (around 600 ft.)
Magazine - I have only fired the gun with the drum magazine and never saw box magazines, I picked the box capacity from wikipedia.
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2007, 05:44:33 AM »

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Range - M-31 has a bit longer barrel, effective range is around 200 meters (around 600 ft.)
The effective range of the PPSh-41 was only a few meters less, the MP5 has also an effective range of 200m (in the book it has a 30 ft. range increment).

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Magazine - I have only fired the gun with the drum magazine and never saw box magazines, I picked the box capacity from wikipedia.

Never trust wikipedia, a lot of info there is total horse$#&!.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2007, 06:04:36 AM »

Did some checking on the magazines:
First magazines available m/-31 20 or 25 round box (depends where you look) and m/-31 40 round drum, soon changed to a m/-37 70 round drum (could reportedly take up to 73 rounds). Before Winter War there was developed a 50 round box (called ruumisarkku or "coffin") and after the war a m/-54/-55 36 round box.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2007, 06:26:20 AM »

7.62 RK 95 TP Assault Rifle Pick - Caliber III

An improved version of RK 62 with a number of improvements. The weapon has a Galil-style folding stock (folds to the right), threaded barrel (for use with either a silencer or rifle grenades) and a attachment point optics.

7.62x39   3d6   1/19-20   30M5   13   125 ft.   S/2h   CLS, DEP, RGD, TBR   9.5 lbs   22/+1   1995   R$2,500

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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2007, 05:09:53 PM »

What? No wishes?

Let's have a Bren gun then:

Bren   SAW                           
.303 British   4d4 + 2   1-3/19-20   30M6   12   175 ft.   S/2h   BLK, UPG (Bipod), DEP   22.8 lb   22/+1   1935
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