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 on: Today at 12:04:29 AM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Valentina
If you don't like the author's description of his own character I don't know what to tell you other than to read the novels yourself.

Fair point.

Guess the idea just doesn't cross over well to the bigscreen Bond.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 11:47:27 PM 
Started by Slashes-With-Claws - Last post by TKDB
Important tip for social characters:

When Haggling, use your free raise, then Impress, then Haggle.

Same goes for Bluffing, for that matter.

I really do like the way FC makes it worth your while to schmooze someone to get on his good side before trying to get something out of him.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 11:38:52 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Krensky
If you don't like the author's description of his own character I don't know what to tell you other than to read the novels yourself.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 11:24:06 PM 
Started by ephealy - Last post by ephealy
What is being sold? I care more about the die but my friend is going and I need to tell him what to buy to also get the die. Can he just buy the die?
You can't buy one directly, but you can buy anything else. Little Wizards, FC, any of the Mistborn books...

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 on: July 30, 2015, 11:08:15 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Valentina
Understood, but is that not effectively a different character?

And if he's truly non-cerebral how does he effectively succeed at intelligence operations? I'm fairly confident that Super Spy is a thinking man's job. If an assassin is all that's called for I'm sure snipers and car bombs get a lot more done than one highly fallible caveman pointed in the direction of a dossier.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 11:01:55 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Krensky
The issue is that, in Fleming's own words, Bond is a violent non-cerebral man with lots of vices and no real virtues. He's a blunt instrument when British Intelligence needs someone dead.

He's also highly skilled,  but nowhere near the best at anything.  He's routinely beaten by other people. He's the best shot in the 00 program,  but greys easily beaten by MI6's instructor,  for instance. He also gets his ass kicked a lot.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 10:22:18 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Valentina
Duke Togo. Wink

Edit: ok, that's kinda lame.

Sean Connery.

Brosnan's probably closer to the ideal, if not the actual novel original because while Craig's pretty good he's Not Really Bond in what are Not Really Bond movies.

I was thinking a bit on Skyfall which is excellent but requires several un-Bond-like mistakes to work. Bond gets captured on the boat because he drops his guard. Silva gets a silly off-screen escape because he's not guarded by anyone that matters. Bond fails to interrupt an assassination, and then fails to get anything useful from the assassin that he didn't have to buy with an action die. I suppose it's also a consideration of how flawed Bond should be, and I favor him being The Best. Part of Cold War Bond wasn't just his universality, but how he was a British character who routinely outfoxed both the CIA and the KGB. Or outfoxed and seduced, but either way...

My point isn't about infallibility, but that Connery's Bond always felt intelligent. Calculating. His endless womanizing and drinking might have been a crutch, but it also felt like a facade. He knew better and was rarely out of options. He was "The Man For All Seasons." I can buy that his behavior could be explained as "mechanically ethical sociopath" but frankly I don't care if that's what Bond actually ends up being when compared to how he functioned. The character's an ideal, an archetype. He's Spycraft -not an SC PC.

Ironically in contrast is that while Craig's much more flawed he's also much more physically superhuman and does far flashier stunts. I'm sure part of that's the far greater technological possibilities of modern movies, but it's also taking the Bond idea to a kind of (admittedly gentle) exaggeration. IIRC classic Bond tended to get his Big Ben cleaned by actual martial arts minions and usually compensated with a gadget or by cheating improvising instead of being a John Woo-grade gunman in a better suit.

I've seen the others and can't remember a whole lot. Dalton seemed ok, and I haven't seen Lazenby since I was ineligible to vote.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 10:14:48 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Krensky
Brosnan is probably closest to Fleming's vision of Bond's appearance,  but Fleming's Bond is an unrefined thug and asssassin which Craig captures better. Craig also gets the emotional appearance right, even though in straight appearance Brosnan looks closer.

That said, Bond is described as looking like Hoagie Carmichael on the novels.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 08:53:50 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Viperion
Yep likewise. It's really really close for me between Brosnan and Connery, with Connery getting the slight edge as being the more iconically recognized Bond. The movie Lazenby was in was excellent, but I can't really judge him based on one performance.

I'm not completely sold on Craig yet, but he's not awful.

I agree Moore doesn't quite "click" for me, and I didn't like Dalton's portrayal of Bond at all.

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 on: July 30, 2015, 08:05:30 PM 
Started by MilitiaJim - Last post by Jackal_mkII
I thought Brosnan was the perfect call... pity about those scripts, though. Connery is classic though.

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