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1  Community / Off-Topic / Re: Life, the World, and Everything. (Social Issues) on: April 26, 2015, 11:54:46 PM
I think something got lost in translation there...
2  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 25, 2015, 01:05:23 AM
* Sigh.

Less is more DC, less is more.

I think they're trying to distance Leto's Joker from Ledger's as much as possible, which is understandable, but that picture is generating some serious vibes along the line of Frank Gorshin's lean manic 60s version of Riddler.

When I look at it, I don't think The Joker, I think comic book themed punk-pop band member. If they lost the tattoos and dental work and put a shirt on him it might work better. The Joker is insane but he's also... functional isn't the word I want but I can't quite find it. basically a special, highly public  and flamboyant, version of an organized, thrill serial killer.

Less is more.
3  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 24, 2015, 11:32:44 PM
* Sigh.

Less is more DC, less is more.
4  Community / Off-Topic / Re: Video game news and reaction on: April 23, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
I'm fairly sure I played that 4 years ago.

Wait... I did.
5  Community / License to Improvise / Re: [Notebook] Seizing Initiatve on: April 22, 2015, 09:12:03 PM
Yes.
6  Community / License to Improvise / Re: [Notebook] Seizing Initiatve on: April 22, 2015, 11:40:59 AM
So I introduced this to my table last night and everyone seemed to enjoy it with the single fight we had. Granted the only bit that came up really was the +2 attack and defense part since there was only one short fight, but we'll see how things go next time.
7  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Idiot Box 2015: TV news, views & reviews on: April 22, 2015, 11:38:23 AM
I'm also wondering if we'll see Misty Knight and Coleen Wing in Iron Fist or if they'll show up sooner. Same with Angela del Toro.
8  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 20, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
And yet the comic books are circling the drain and not finding new readers despite the amazing success of the MCU and before it DCAU and DCs other television projects.

  So are newspapers and every other function based on the printed word. If anything superhero comics have done one of the best jobs of all previously-print-based operation in shifting to the new mediums. While readership is down, cultural awareness has skyrocketed. Hell, I'm taking my mother to the San Diego Comic Con this year. And all of her 40s-60s friends/co-workers both know what that means and are jealous. I'm pretty sure the comics industry can survive a declining readership. Heck, I suspect the books will come out long after their direct financial viability has summed to zero (or less) simply because it's both petri-dish and training ground for stories and writers and artists who can transition to other mediums.

  But most of all I think this very conversation shows DC is doing something right. They are demonstrating that not only is there more than one way to do it, their way is controversial, and generates discussion in a way that the Avengers doesn't because with the Avengers we all say 'yeah, that was really good' with one voice, maybe hold up a favorites scene or two, snicker about a particular nit-pick that really bugs us, and then the discussion is over. We certainly don't have to dig into 30+ years of canon and talk about the path of the industry as a whole before we move on to a new topic or go out and get lunch.

And now were getting into one of the arguments I had with my aesthetics professor in college...

I maintain that the theory that 'controversial' or 'polarizing' or whatever art is inherently better then well liked popular art is a salve that artists tell themselves. Not that near universal popular acceptance makes something better either, just that there's nothing intrinsic in controversy that makes a work better or worse.

Is John Williams' Superman Theme a worse composition than John Cage's 4'33" because it sold more? Or than Stravinsky's Rite of Spring because it didn't cause riots?

No.
9  Community / License to Improvise / Re: [Farthest Star] So, guns... on: April 19, 2015, 04:05:05 PM
Rus was asking why sci-fi slug throwers have straight magazines. The most likely reason is the visual association with the AK-47 and it's association with the 'low tech' soviet and and third world. Hence why, as he put it, you usually see them on 'low-tech' weapons in the sci-fi he's looking at.
10  Community / License to Improvise / Re: [Farthest Star] So, guns... on: April 19, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
The (somewhat previous) ubiquity of the AK-47 in soviet and third world militaries, militias, and rebellions.
11  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 18, 2015, 11:04:39 PM
Green Arrow is Batman with a different schtick. Especially the Arrow version, what with the League of Assassins and such. Both the ersatz Batman in Arrow and the leftist former playboy counterpart to Hal Jordan's rightwing veteran are very different archetypes then Superman.

Daredevil's part of the MCU and is darker as all get out. It's basically The Wire with masks. It's also a very different part of the MCU than Avengers. Arguably it might have worked better with Moonkight, but there's more than enough people going Darewho as it is and MK is even more obscure than the man with no fear.

As for the top of the food chain, I have no idea what's going on at WB/DC. On Disney/Marvel's side it seems that Disney's starting to try and reign in the lunacy there with (yet another) Secret Wars and rebooting the universe and the rumored moratorium on X books in favor of the Inhumans (which is in line with the MCU). I fully expect the Marvel Universe that comes out the other end of Battleworld to be perfectly recognisable and fit with the expectations of people whose first exposure to Marvel was the MCU stuff. Because that makes Marvel money because when people who've watched the MCU stuff walk into a store selling comics and pick up a captain America book they won't be left wondering who this old withered guy is or if they pick up Iron Man they won't have to ask why Tony's a villain or why Thor's a woman, or why Nick Fury's white, evil, and dead. It won't be the MCU, but it will be aligned to allow the MCU properties to draw people with an interest into buying comics.
12  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 18, 2015, 10:41:45 PM
And yet the comic books are circling the drain and not finding new readers despite the amazing success of the MCU and before it DCAU and DCs other television projects.

Maybe its because you and the editors are wrong about the demographics and what the people want? Or are you saying that chasing the, what, one or two hundred thousand people who are looking for an unholy blend of masturbatory Silver Age idolatry and the worst aspects of Iron Age titsngrit juvinalia rather than the two million or more people who a watched the DCAU or Teen Titans as kids or the MCU, or Arrow/Flash?
13  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 18, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
And? Both Marvel and DC have been varying degrees of crap for a decade because the feel the need to make everything dark and edgy. It's like they forgot they're writing comic books.

That's why the MCU works. You don't need to know what's happening in the books and the characters are essentially the ones Joe Schmoe remembers from his youth and are what 'normal' people who know the characters think of when they think of them. Same with the DCAU. Heck, same with the Nolan Batman and DCs other animated television series.

Superman as an asshole who kills people and everyone is afraid of and you wouldn't let your kids read? That's an unknown to the broader world because no one reads those comics. Probably because there's way too little recognizable in them to anyone who hasn't been reading them for the last decade.

Making children's stories (or child friendly stories) 'dark and edgy' does not make you cool. It makes you a jerk. Again, see the Buckets of Blood guy.
14  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 18, 2015, 09:20:48 PM
Except that's not what Superman or Clark Kent is.

If you throw out the archetype and the archetypal story that define Superman you're left with nothing but pretentious wankery giggling about how cool and edgy it is for pointing out the silliness that everyone knows is there.

"You know what would be cool? Let's take Superman beloved icon written for children and then make him... I don't know... dark and gritty."

"Yeah! We can have him brood and kill people and dump Lois for Diana and generally be a dick while pointing out all the logical inconsistencies and problems with the character and world that people know and love!"

"And maybe if we make him enough of asshole and piss all over our reader's childhood and expectations one of those jerk wad art critics will notice and finally give us the validation that we're not just comic book writers!"

If you don't want to write or read stories about a big blue boy scout then might I suggest Batman, or one of DC's other heroes? Because that's what Superman IS. Without the bright skies and smile and squeaky clean-ness Batman looses his foil. Without it you you can't have Superman's crowning moment of awesome in JLU. Without it you have an asshole in spandex wearing his underwear on the outside.

Not even the original 30s Superman was that dark and joyless for pity's sake!
15  Community / Off-Topic / Re: The Silver Screen: Movie News, Reviews & Reactions 2015 on: April 18, 2015, 07:04:42 PM
Clear eyed examinations of Superman and his place in the world make fun speculative essays. They make shitty movies and comic books, as Man of Steel and now Dawn of Justice demonstrate.
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